8’s and tuners and springs!

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by rossmon, Apr 30, 2021.

  1. Blackmore Fan

    Blackmore Fan Senior Stratmaster

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    Not all, but I find it less than optimal. That's what most of the opinions here amount to.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Opinions are just that. Set your guitars up how you like them and everybody else should do the same. Nobody else gets to play them anyway.
     
  3. fernank017

    fernank017 New Member!

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    I use 8's on my strat along with E-flat tuning The tremolo is effectively "decked" but not blocked by using all 5 springs. I can still use my trem to dive (a little more effort is required), but it stays in tune for weeks.

    If your strat is having issues keeping in tune then it has to do with other aspects of your set up
     
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    fernank017 New Member!

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    What I used to do was clip my tuner to the amp handle, and turn the volume on my amp to the point where the tuner can read it. Works for clip on and app-based tuners.
     
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    s5tuart Perfecting time travel since 2525

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    If the guitar is particularly resonant the tuner can pick up all sorts of harmonics.
    Try picking the string you are tuning constantly rather than letting it ring?
    Dunno if that'll work but it can't hurt to try.

    I use 8's on everything despite being over 10 years old.
    I've just bought an acoustic but can't find any 8's acoustic strings or they'd be on that too :p
     
  6. guitarchaeologist

    guitarchaeologist Le Misanthrope Silver Member

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    I'll add a little something to that good advice. Mute as many of the strings as possible except the one being tuned. I start with the low E and work toward the high E, muting everything below the string I am tuning.
    Set the selector to the neck p'up and turn the volume down slightly... to like 9 or 9 1/2.
    See if any of that helps.
     
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    You use what you like and I'll use what I like. Your opinions don't matter any more than anyone else's.
     
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    mazzolar59 Strat-Talker Silver Member

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    Have you tried fretting the low E at the 5th fret? I find that fretting the string and tuning to the fretted pitch works well. You can also try the 12th fret harmonic.
     
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  9. Biddlin

    Biddlin Senior Stratmaster

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    I play 7s. No trouble with tuners. Placement of Snark type clip on can make a difference.
    I'm 68 and view guitar playing as a skill, not a strength contest. No one over the age of 10 should be so impertinent, but there you go...
     
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    dirocyn Senior Stratmaster

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    Come on, man. It's not a machismo contest. There's absolutely nothing wrong with playing 7s or 8s, it's just a question of preference.

    I prefer 10s on Strats, 11s on Gibson scale, and I have 12s on most of my acoustics. That doesn't mean you're a wuss for preferring 9s. It just means you have different preferences.
     
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    @rossmon, you might try changing which pickup on the guitar is being used while tuning. It can sometimes make a positive difference.
     
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    Sometimes there are harmonics that confuse the tuner--and the harmonic content can change if you change string gauge or style. Cell phone mics are often designed to reject lower frequencies, too. Try turning up your amp a little, that may help.

    If you're using a clip-on tuner--I've noticed those get more confused if the battery is low. It can also help to move the tuner to a different spot.
     
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    Blackmore Fan Senior Stratmaster

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    Nowhere in my post did it say it was a machismo contest, or that anyone was a wuss. I simply said I don't understand ultra-light gauge choices, and I do believe there are downsides for using such strings.
     
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    64 Tele Strat-O-Master

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    I'm waiting for 6's to come out. :rolleyes:
    I used to play 10's on everything, but that was pre-internet....
     
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    myredstrat Senior Stratmaster

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    first put fresh batteries in your tuners, then check the intonation of your guitar. Assuming that is not really off, tune which ever strings you can, then for example find an A note on your D string (7th fret) duplicate that on the A string(12th fret) they should be the same etc etc.
    by the way in the article I read Ritchie Blackmore's strings are the same gauge as Ernie Ball super slinkys except the high E is a .10 instead of a .o9 all the rest are pretty light!
     
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    rossmon Strat-Talk Member

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    Thanks for all the help! I don't care about negativity but thanks for any support. Those that have to say something that doesn't add to things are just looking for attention...
     
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    rossmon Strat-Talk Member

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    I've learned quite a bit from this thread. One thing that might surprise you all is that I tune the guitar unamplified and I play it most of the time that way! I do that because 1. its quieter for those around me and 2. I like to sing along and without a separate microphone input or amp I can't hear myself sing as well with the guitar amplified.
    Also, unamplified tends to hide my mistakes better! Remember, I suck at this! What I get from my strat is playing the beautiful neck and smaller body than playing on my vintage D35 Guild! I keep looking at those thin line Tele's and wonder how much louder they are unamplified!
    When I want to play amplified, I usually use the built in tuner on the Vox amp but like I say It didn't work too well with the 8's either. I think later (going on my 5 mile run now) I will plug in to the amp and try using one of my tuners with the strat amplified!
    Also, I did get some 9's too and I will be trying them out at some later date. Since i'm so cheap, i want to get some moneys worth out of the 8's! I got the expensive ones with the titanium alloy and it cost almost................. now take a breath here and hold it, $10 bucks for a set!
     
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    dirocyn Senior Stratmaster

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    That was the way I read your posts, if that's not your intention I don't know what you mean by "no one over 10" needing lighter strings.

    I agree there are down sides to light strings. Which is why I play 12s on my acoustic guitars. The mass of strings is what drives vibrations in the guitar body--and that is really important for acoustic guitars. The low e on my jumbo acoustic speaks with authority, I sure don't want to diminish that. But string gauge also changes how "lively" an electric feels. And heavier strings vibrate with more of the root frequency and less of the harmonics, so they sound bigger, fatter, warmer and beefier. Plus they break less often.

    But the other side of the coin is, light strings are easier on the hands, easier to bend, brighter and more harmonically complex. We all have to decide for ourselves which of these factors is more important. It's a matter of taste and preference, not adult vs. child or strong vs. weak.

    I'm sorry if it felt like I'm coming after you with negativity, but I do think it's important that people can pick strings based on their own preferences.
     
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    dirocyn Senior Stratmaster

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    I kind of thought that might be the case, my cell phone tuner does the same way if I'm playing an electric unamplified. The phone mic just can't pick up those lower frequencies unless they're amplified a little.

    Dude, I love old Guilds. Show me your guitar!

    Try one out in person before you commit to buying--as acoustic guitars the thinline Tele is only barely louder than a regular Tele. You might like the acoustasonic, though. Also consider something like the Epiphone Casino (that's mine in my profile pic)--which is sized like an electric guitar but is actually a thin-bodied archtop. Except you like light strings--my Casino needs 10.5s, minimum, to perform well as an acoustic.
     
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    Hydr0 Senior Stratmaster

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    I don’t think you need to clarify, the original comment you responded to was asinine anyway.

    This one is dedicated to you @Blackmore Fan , stay strong



    :D
     
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