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86 Strat..does the body look right?

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  1. Fredordead

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    Hi guys,
    New member here and I'm hoping you guys can help. I bought an 86 fender strat over the weekend. It's one of the F series that have the ST 357v stamped in the neck. I believe that these were used in some squiers of the same era.
    The neck is fine and is stamped, but I am concerned about the body as there is no stamp in the neck pocket. This seems unlikely for the way they did them at the time and I wonder if anyone can tell me if I've ended up with a partscaster?
    I've included pictures. If there is any other advice you could give on what to look for I'd be really grateful.
    The pickguard has been changed from stock and when I took it off there were no markings inside.
    I do really like the way it plays. Just want to know if it is totally genuine.
    Thanks!
     

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    Hey - you are going to have to post more pics of the guitar body and neck for anyone to tell what you have there.

    Welcome to Strat-Talk!
     
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    It's not at all unusual at all for the Japanese Standard ST357 Strat to have no stamps.

    Welcome to bedlam the forum.
     
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    Thanks..here are some more pics of body..not sure of they help?
     

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    Well that is some welcome news. The plate on the back looks like the original aged white one. I'm not sure why someone would upgrade the pups and then swap out the body. The neckplate has been changed.
    Hopefully it is the real thing.
     
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    The paint around edge of the heel looks unlike any I've ever noticed. But maybe because I never paid much attention.
     
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    The 12th fret marker dots look very wide apart for an MIJ neck. Let's see the headstock and a front on shot of the fretboard.
     
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    I'm happy that the neck is fine. It is stamped with the following pic which is totally in keeping with the serial number and it's age.
     

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    Just as an aside, there were both Fender and Squier ST357s.
     
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    I have a very similar strat, all looks the same as mine except the pickguard/electronics.
     
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    I'll tell you one thing, the distance between those 12th fret dots on the neck means that CANNOT be a Fender Japan neck....got photos of the headstock etc?

    EDIT - unless it's a Dyna or Mikki Gakki build.....
     
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    Here is the headstock..blurred out some of the serial number. Sorry I'm a newb..so not sure if I should have done that? I've seen other people do it so thought it's the done thing.
     

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    Does yours have any markings in the neck pocket? I'm starting to think it probably is all cool.
     
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    What is the serial number letter prefix? I can't tell in the photos....you have a legit ST-357V but I think it's probably Dyna Gakki made meaning post 1993/94?

    If it's really from 1986....there's a huge problem...it would have had a full size trem block and Fender stamped saddles....and yours doesn't have either.....
     
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    no only on the neck, you can see some pics in the link I provided, looks almost exactly the same as yours, and I know it's 100% genuine from 88-89
     
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    the distance on the dots looks the same on my strat, unless there is a minute detail i'm missing like they are a few mm too far apart or something. i have some pics in the link in my post above.

    mine's a H series from 88-89 and also doesn't have fender stamped saddles and a small trem block from what I can tell. maybe they made a change from the earlier 80's models around that time?
     
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    Just noticed your link.
    Yeah, these seem exactly the same. That has really reassured me. I know they aren't top of the range..possibly equivalent to squire silver series..but the neck plays so nice.
    Mine has texas specials in it which are quite cool. Didn't pay big bucks for it either so I'm happy with it.
    Thanks for your help!!
     
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  19. Guitarmageddon

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    @pren has confused me talking abut his Strat....I'm still trying to determine the serial number letter prefix of @Fredordead's Strat....

    If it's from 1986 that is NOT the original bridge or block...and possibly not the original body since it's alder...and these were spec'ed to have basswood....
     
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    It's an F Ryan.

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