'93 Strat Plus: Putting in newer locking tuners or leave it stock?

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  1. CalicoSkies

    CalicoSkies Most Honored Senior Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I have a 1993 Strat Plus that I got late last year. I think they're great guitars, but one thing I noticed is that with the locking tuners, the lock wheels can come off when loosened all the way. With the newer Schaller locking tuners (and other brands too), I believe they're made so that the lock wheels don't fall off when loosened all the way. I've wondered if it would be worthwhile to put newer Schaller locking tuners on the Strat Plus so I don't have to worry about the lock wheels coming off. Do you think it would be worthwhile? One thing is I haven't seen any new Schaller locking tuners in the matte color that came with the Strat Plus.. The new ones all seem to be chrome/nickel, black, or gold.
     
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    T Bone Slort "Was you ever bit by a dead bee?" Silver Member

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    Same thing happens with my 91 Plus Dlx. I’m just careful when changing strings and I don’t intend to change the tuners any time soon.
     
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    qblue Senior Stratmaster

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    No, it ain't worth it.

    I have a 1990 Strat Ultra with chromed Schaller tuners. The newer tuners will operate the same as the older ones. In 31 yrs+ one of the locking screws have only fallen off once. I just don't twist them to their upper limits, so no danger of falling off.

    If you are paranoid of them falling off then you should replace, even though it's a different finish.
     
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    Slacker G Strat-O-Master

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    I have never found a need for locking tuners on any of my guitars. They're just more stuff to go wrong.
     
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    CalicoSkies Most Honored Senior Member Gold Supporting Member

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    The Strat Plus came with locking tuners, so that's just how the guitar is stock.. But for me, I suppose I could say I don't 'need' locking tuners, but they're nice to have for quick string changes. And I'm not sure there's a big chance of anything going wrong with locking tuners..
     
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    if they come off when loosening all the way then dont loosen them all the way..
     
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    Rbert0005 Strat-Talker

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    ^^^ this

    Just loosen them enough so you can take the strings out.

    Bob
     
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    Biddlin Senior Stratmaster

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    I have a Les Paul with Grover locking tuners. I love them but have not had the issue of unscrewing them "too far!" Moderation in all things, bro.
     
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    i would leave them and just be mindful as you change strings, a strat plus imo is one of fender's nicer models so even i would not modify it !
     
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    CalicoSkies Most Honored Senior Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Well yeah.. I've just been used to newer locking tuners, I guess - I can loosen them and not have to worry about the lock rings falling off.

    I was thinking along the same lines..
     
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    arct Strat-Talker

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    I've never understood the locking tuners. Nobody has ever tried to steal my machines, so I've never needed to lock them.

    rct
     
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    Reminds me of....Doc, my leg hurts, what should I do????

    Limp.....
     
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    No.

    The older tuners are of higher quality. Just don't back them off all the way. They only need a turn or two.
     
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    Do you want to replace them? If so, do it.

    All these guys can opine about how it's unnecessary and doesn't really improve anything. Screw 'em. It's your guitar, your money--and not even a huge expense. If you want it, do it.

    I wouldn't. To me, it doesn't matter. I've never installed locking tuners, nor removed them from a guitar that had 'em already. Nobody is paying to watch me change my guitar strings quickly. And if I happened to unscrew the lock-wheel, it wouldn't hurt my feelings or embarrass me--I'd just put it back. But hell, my priorities are completely irrelevant here.
     
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    If you are concerned about losing one of the lock wheels at least it is an easy - and easily reversible - change. Just keep the old satin-finish Schallers and put them back on if you ever sell the guitar and don't worry about the 2021 version of the tuners not being the same satin finish.
     
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    amstratnut Peace thru Music.

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    I had a strat plus back in the 80s. I never had an issue.
     
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    +1
     
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    I mean, just don’t screw the wheel off. And if you do….simply screw it back on?
    Is this a trick question?
     
  20. CalicoSkies

    CalicoSkies Most Honored Senior Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Not a trick question.. It just could be plausible to drop it and it could roll away somewhere. Possibly underneath something where it might be hard to retrieve, etc...