'93 Strat Plus: Putting in newer locking tuners or leave it stock?

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  1. ShawnM

    ShawnM New Member!

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    Dude, it’s a classic. I’d just leave it alone, that’s just my opinion. I’ve got an 87 and the first time I changed strings I intentionally unscrewed it a the way so I knew how far to not go. Kinda like when I get a new vehicle. I fillup a jerry can and run it out of gas so I know how far I can drive past empty!
     
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    Morf2540 Senior Stratmaster

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    What he said. With those tuners you just need to back the wheel off a quarter or half turn.
     
  3. train

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    Seems like it’s a personal issue , I always recommend you do what you need to do feel comfortable with your instrument. You shouldn’t worry about what other guitar players do since we are all different yet the same .
     
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    I have had the same Strat Plus Deluxe since I bought 'er new in 1993.

    I've another, I bought X amount of years back.

    And my 2015 American Deluxe also has Fender locking tuners.

    I've never backed them off to the point I thought I'd gone too far.

    When changing strings, pull gently on the string (on it's path OUT obviously) while backing wheel off. As soon as it's 'enough' the string POOF comes out. And unless you're changing gauges, that will be a rough guide for the new string.

    I love locking tuners. String changes are sooooooo easy. Hell, I've backed them out, swapped pickgaurds and simply put the same strings back. Not sure I could do that with regular tuners.
     
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    Seriously I feel your pain !! After years of using doer zap and fender lockers which did not have the problem I’m putting together a parts caster and managed to pick up thumbwheel lockers for a great price ( unbranded Korean) they open with the thumb wheels very easy and spin as they come away from tension last week I lost one as I left the guitar unstrung overnight . Still can’t find it I need to buy a new set . To the nay sayers until you have this issue you can’t comment wisely !!
     
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    I lost a wheel from my '91 Plus. So it's not just a case of "don't loosen it so much". Mine was the low E, and I suspect it tipped over and got loosened by what ever it struck.

    Since you seem aware of the problem, I expect you'll be vigilant enough to make sure you don't lose them. I'd leave it as it is.
     
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    I'm confused. What side of the fence are you on, lol?

    "after years of using fender tuners..." No issues

    "unbranded Korean....." issues.

    You wouldn't have this issue if you shopped wisely never mind comment wisely o_O
     
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    I’ve had my ‘95 Plus since new and never found this to be a problem.
     
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    I’ll be honest…I can’t tell if your being sarcastic or not. :)
     
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    Maybe a set of locking tuners with locking wheel locks? I guess there could be a issue with the lower strin gs. I have found that the wheel can be over loosened on the low E, and A. Just be aware there. Maybe get a spare?
     
  11. CalicoSkies

    CalicoSkies Most Honored Senior Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I have newer guitars with locking tuners, and once had a 2013 American Deluxe Strat that had the Fender locking tuners. From what I recall, the locker wheels don't come off even if you loosen them all the way.
     
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    My thoughts also. I had a Strat Plus in the mid ninety's, don't remember what year, that had locking tuners. That's when I really started liking them. Not so much the guitar though. Been using them ever since with no problems whatsoever. Are they necessary? No. Nice to have though when changing strings. There's really no need, under normal circumstances to turn them that far that they could fall out.:D
     
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    It seems the locker wheels just don't turn much at all before they come off.. It seems you only really need to turn them a little bit for them to lock/unlock. I guess I may be used to newer locking tuners where I'd just turn them all the way loose.. They wouldn't come off, so I didn't worry about it and didn't really think about it.
     
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    At some point in the mid-90s Schaller updated the design so the locking wheels can't come off. I think that might have happened by 1995, but it might have been a year or two later.
     
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    mine have come off. Not a big deal. To me.
     
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    Hey, @CalicoSkies ...leave that plus alone

    all in all it's a, great guitar the way it is
     
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    Now I feel like eating some pudding.. But, I need to eat my meat first.
     
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    First I wouldn’t change anything, unless it no longer worked as it should. I have 2 - 91’ Ultras & an 88’ Strat Plus Deluxe. 1 of the Ultras - when I bought it was already missing a locking wheel - at that time it was easily replaceable. I bought these guitars many years ago. They are great guitars, currently playing a CS 1955 Strat as my #1.
     
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    The Tommy Cooper response……….’I said to my guitar tech ‘my locking tuners fall apart when I do this’’ he said ‘well don’t do it then’.
     
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    I asked the doctor to give me something for the wind, he gave be a kite.
     
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