Adapting to Jumbo Frets

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  1. misterwogan

    misterwogan Senior Stratmaster

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    The new Yamaha Revstar has jumbo frets and very comfortable they are too. Problem is: everything I''m playing is coming out sharp - chords, notes, all of it. Not by much, but when I drop the audio into the mix - OUCH! Of course I could just drop a pitch-shift plugin on the track, but how much fun would that be?

    Does this mean that at my time of life, I'm going to have to adapt and learn something new?
     
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    Believer7713 The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein Silver Member

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    If you are going to keep those big frets then you will need to learn to play with a lighter touch. It is almost like playing on a scalloped fretboard. the harder you squeeze the more your pitch goes up. Kind of like something else...:p Though it does give you option to be able to do some cool vibratos without wiggling your hand.
     
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    Tall frets are just exercise in relaxation....think about the pressure you put on the fret when playing mediums or lower and cut it in half......when you get used to it you ll find it more enjoyable to play guitar with less hand issues in the long run too.
     
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    Tone Deaf Most Honored Senior Member

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    Are you implying that when fretting a note using jumbo frets that one doesn’t need to press the string all the way down to touch the fretboard?
     
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    nutball73 Senior Stratmaster

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    Go up a gauge on your strings...
     
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    Yes it actually doesnt....in fact if someone gets accustomed to the light tough he can apply it just as well in medium jumbo frets(maybe minus the ultra low vintage ones).When you fret a not and apply very little pressure you dont hear a note you hear a muted sound....now if you apply a little more pressure a note is heard...thats the optimal pressure you need if you want to play relaxed and without bending notes out of tune.By the way the string doesnt touch the fretboard anyway...its your finger that does.
     
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    misterwogan Senior Stratmaster

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    Oooh, I like that idea. I haven't played 12s since I had a PRS DGT back in 2012.
     
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    Not attempting to be a smart ass here, but this actually what is being said and not implied. I’ll second this, one doesn’t need to press the string all the way down to touch the fretboard, with jumbo and/or tall frets
     
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    Possibly lower the action some if you can, and use a light touch.

    If I have been playing my acoustic (small frets & higher action) and I switch to my guitar with jumbos, it takes a minute or two to adjust.

    It's just a matter of relaxing my grip.
     
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    Shred guitars All come with Jumbo and X Jumbo frets for fast playing, meaning light touch
     
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    Actually, it was only somewhat implied, and not said.
    That is why I asked, never having played anything but vintage and medium jumbo frets.

    Thank you for the clarification.
     
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    Jeez I thought I had a heavy grip! But nevertheless it definitely does help. I use light/heavy 10-52 on my jumbo fretted strat. On a shorter scale I'm sure you can go up more...
     
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    i love monster frets and i used to be an oversqueezer.

    when i went down to 8 - 38 gauge strings i had to develop a much lighter touch, like wrestling with a child or puppy extra light touch.

    it was weird at first but i now have much more control and so much less fatigue.
     
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    As a general rule - and I can't say I'm always successful at it - only the amount of pressure necessary to sound the note cleanly should be applied, regardless of fret size.
     
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    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    I recently learned country style bends are far easier on jumbos.
     
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    Thanks for iterating this important tidbit. I’m sure that many readers either didn’t know this or are not regular practitioners of the technique.
     
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    Yep.

    Yngwie used to say that the scalloped neck actually slowed him down, but it worked well for his vibrato technique.
    I agree on the vibrato issue, but I disagree with him on the speed issue.
    I find that taller frets (or a scalloped neck) force me to play with a lighter touch, which in turn helps with speed, accuracy, and muscle fatigue.
    All are problems that I dealt with from the beginning since my first guitar was a masonite Silvertone acoustic with action you could drive a truck under.
     
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    It's interesting to experiment with the amount of pressure. There's a point (especially with taller frets) where the note rings cleanly - and it's typically before the finger is actually contacting the wood of the board, and then you can still press a lot harder - which is what makes the note go sharp.
     
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    What about tall narrow frets, do you not have to press as hard?
     
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    Yes, the lighter touch adjustment. I am still trying to adopt a lighter touch. I start with a light touch; 4 bars into the song I'm squeezing the life out of the neck. All things considered, 6105 is the ideal fret size to me.
     
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