American Vintage series serial numbers

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  1. guitarman1984

    guitarman1984 Senior Stratmaster

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    Hello,

    I scored the web with no luck about current AV serial numbers. Fender site still report V+5 or 6 numbers, but I keep finding pictures of real guitars with V+7 digits. It seems to me the first 2 digits are referring to the year, other 5 are just a serial number. So V1612345 would be an AV made in 2016.

    This is a best guess of mine, could somebody chime in please?

    I have my eyes on a Strat and I need to be sure whether it's an AV59 or an Hot Rod 62. The serial is one key point among few other minor details....

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    stratistically Strat-O-Master

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    If you have the full serial number the Fender Customer Relations are the folk to ask. You can find their e-mail address on their main site.
     
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    Yes that's definitely the way to go, but I'm going to check the guitar in a few hours and I need a quick response... anybody with a recent AV 59 or 65 who could double check the serial?
     
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    I believe the 59 should have clay dots.
     
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    Mine is a six digit but it begins 15 and it's a 2005 model. I bought it new. Mine was an FSR though so maybe that makes some sort of difference.

    Edited to add: it starts out V15.
     
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    Your is an AVRI, my interest is specifically on the more recents American Vintage Series, introduced in 2013 if I'm not wrong...
     
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    The older AVRIs couldn't be accurately dated from the serial numbers, only the date stamped on the neck butt. Surely the same is true with the new AV range too?
     
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    Yes, when the current AV series came out in August 2012 they did change the serial number format and now the first 2 digits are the year - so an AV '59 Strat with a V15xxxxx serial number would be a 2015.

    This is most apparent when looking at the AV '52 Tele versus the AVRI '52 Tele - the older AVRIs just had a number (no letter prefix) and the AVs have the V12xxxxx, V13xxxxx, etc. format.

    On all the other AVRI models the number after the V prefix is just the serial number, and as we know they aren't sequential due to how Fender used them.
     
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    I'm not sure due to these AV serials being with 7 digits and due to I cannot find a valid explanation for that. First 2 digits they might be the production year?
     
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    No, Fender did change it with the AVs.

    They haven't caught the site up to these for some reason.
     
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    Thanks a lot @John C , this makes a V+7 a recent AV series, while a V+5 or V+6 would be for sure an AVRI.

    Edit: or a Vintage Hot Rod 62 or Vintage Hot Rod 57
     
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    That's my new fact for the day learned.

    :cool:
     
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    You guys rock, my case is solved now.
    Thanks

    On a side note, it sounds more than logical to insert the production year in the serial.
     
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    Yes it does. It only took Fender 30 years to get there......
     
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    So one with a V155790 neck late stamp is a 2015? Seller says it has FSR in the trem cavity and he bought it new in 2005. Sort of Ice Blue Metallic with matching headstock. I think it's the same as this one.

    https://www.mrmusicguitars.com/product-p/v155254.htm
     
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    Not necessarily - the first 2 digits being the year format is only for the AV series that starts in August 2012. There were AVRIs that wound up with "V12xxxx", "V13xxxx", "V14xxxx" etc. over the years since they used to use a somewhat sequential (but applied randomly) serial number that was a V followed by 5 digits.

    I suppose Fender felt it was okay to have the numbers repeat since they were different models (AVRI '57 and '62 vs. AV '56, '59 and '65). The '52 Tele was the only model found in both series, but it is easy to tell the difference since the AVRI versions only had a number stamped on the bridge plate; the revised AV series would have the "VYYxxxxx" format on the bridge plate.
     
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    It's also was pretty logical to start at 0 and go up, who cares what year a guitar is made? Collectors