Annoying String Breakage

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  1. Je1279

    Je1279 Strat-Talk Member

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    Hello all. New to the forum and hoping to get some advice. I recently added the tremolo assembly from an elite strat to my 2021 player strat. Mind you, I didn't play it with original tremolo because I'm not a fan of the bent saddles and long grub screws that chew up your hand. Anyway, since installing the new tremolo about a week ago, I've already snapped two high E strings while playing normally. What's odd is both times the string has snapped where it wraps around the barrel at the end of it and not at the bridge, the nut or the tuner of the guitar. Also, both times I have found the barrel on the floor after it happened. I haven't had strings break like this previously so I'm not sure if it's a defect with the package of strings that I purchased or something else that I am not aware of. Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
     
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    The barrel?
    I'm dumb
    What's that?
     
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    Welcome to the forum! If you mean the grommet at the end that the wires are twisted around......at the string's bridge end.....

    Then the problem is 100% for the strings themselves....OR a very very slight chance you have something sharp going on inside the tremolo block's channel for the high E - a burr, etc....
     
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    Sorry all. Yes the grommet at the end where the string wraps around it and is then twisted above it.
     
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    Thank you! I'm assuming it's a bad batch of strings at this point but I will check the block channel for that string just to be sure.
     
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    Try Fender Bullets after smoothing out the burr as @Guitarmageddon suggests
     
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    I am the General String Breaker, just be kind of your strings, if you don't be kind it will cost you a lot of money, I'M BROKE :(
     
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    What brand of strings?

    Bob
     
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    either you have a burr inside the block, or you are not seating the strings in properly and they are hanging up on something
     
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    Yeah I don’t know what the OP is talking about, Barrel where the strings twist around. Pics would definitely help.
     
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    So one other difference that I realized after the fact is that I usually play with my tremolo decked and I tried to float it this time instead with the new Elite tremolo. It was floated no more than the 3/16ths of an inch max but since I've decked it again, I've had no more snapped high E strings. Going to leave it as is moving forward as I do very little with the tremolo and was just trying something new.
     
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    I had a bad batch from D'addario years back. Out of a 10 pack of strings I had four of the 1st strings break just tuning them up.


    Then a 2nd batch did the same thing.

    I won't ever buy D'addario again.
     
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    Odd. I run the same D'addario‘s and buy them in 25 set bulk sets, I have had no issues. Using vintage trems, that all float. I really think a slight float
    Makes the guitar play less stiff.

    I tend to think you have a burr in the trem block, I would take an old big e string and use it as a de burring tool.
    Run it back and forth through the block and all around its circumference.

    Trem blocks are a pretty crudely machined part.

    Be it a custom shop guitar or a squire.

    a funny side not to all this, the eric Johnson block, ej made the point of no paint on the block were it attaches to the top trem plate, the machine work however is so rough, I bet the paint actually helps make a better attachment, than no paint.

    for giggles and because I have the files and stones to do so, I lapped the area to a mirror finish, removing all the deep machine marks.
    cold blued it and bolted it together…it fits gunsmith solid.
    Pretty sure it made zero difference.

    listed as an EJ feature, that I see as engineering wise not sound.
    The unpainted block actually has less contact surface.

    Just an interesting side note.
     
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    Nevermind
     
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    To their credit, I emailed them with pictures of the breaks and they sent me a new set along with two new high E strings. I'm hoping this was a one off but their customer service is very good.
     
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    When a trem block is made, the bores are cut with a drill bit. It really is that simple. When drilling metal, it is very common for the bit to leave sharp burrs at the top and bottom of the hole. In some kinds of operations burrs get cleaned up with a grinder or file, but with this kind of bore it's tricky to see the bottom, much less reach it to clean up the cut. Your best bet is to chase the hole with an abrasive cord. An old wound string may be enough.

    Also it is possible there's a problem at the string factory. Something about the machine that twists on the ball ends could be out of alignment.
     
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    They wouldn't even respond to my emails. So screw them.

    I've been using GHS and Dunlop with no issues at all for over a decade