Anyone recognise this control layout?

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  1. uncle daddy

    uncle daddy Strat-Talker

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    I'm a bit new to building Strats, and bought a pre-wired control set, but it doesn't seem to match a regular layout. Anyone know what I'm looking at here?

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  2. uncle daddy

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    They say you can't fix stupid, and I'm living proof! Had the volume and first tone pot transposed. Derp.

    Still doesn't explain the cap between the vol and tone instead of the two tone pots though. Does it work better that way?
     
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    Works the same either way. Gibson does that too.

    They share it.

    I don't see the vol. pot term. grounded ?
     
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    Revised layout

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    Just odd they hadn't done that ??

    Happy pickin'
     
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    Is there something in particular that this circuit gains you? If not, I'd have to take it apart and do it "right".
     
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    This layout should sound and function the same. Fewer solder joins on the back of pots, means fewer cooked pots and less covering up the codes. Maybe a little more cluttered around the volume pot. Easier to swap out the tone pots, and harder to swap the volume.

    I think it's not hurting anything.
     
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    Do I still need to ground the pots to each other like a conventional layout?
     
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    I've been thinking the same- I asked the supplier and he recons it works "better" this way, whatever that means.
     
  10. wrvond

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    In actuality, you don't have to ground the pot cases to each other on any pick guard that has the foil shield. The common wisdom is to not rely on that path though, because if a pot works loose it can cut in and out.
    I've never had a pot work loose.

    Well, you paid for a pre-wired circuit, so you might as well try it to see how you like it.
     
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    Pots work fine without the case being grounded. But the case is a convenient place to put the ground, by convention most guitar makers use the volume pot's case for the central ground. Of course

    The only electronic benefit of using the pot case for ground instead of using something else--is that electromagnetic interference is blocked by a grounded metal case--the case acts as a Faraday cage. Which means a guitar with grounded pots will pick up marginally less radio than a guitar without grounded pots. Not that the stuff inside the pots was ever the main part that picks up radio.