As if I needed a new project - Gilmour Red Strat build

What should I do with the neck?

  • Sell it on

  • Build a Red

  • Cornell Dupree

  • Other (please comment)

  • Simply giving it away isn't an option, so don't choose this

  • Hold out for an EOB loaded body


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Mr. Lumbergh

needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too.
Jan 10, 2014
27,261
Initech, Inc.
TL;DR: What should I do with this badass neck?

Back in 2016, I did a Gilmour Black Strat build https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/it-begins-gilmour-black-strat-build.389521/ using a Hot Rod 50's neck as shown in the thread. If you're not familiar with the model, it was intended as a bit of a sleeper; it looked like an old-school Strat but had modern electronics and features, so for example while the neck only has 21 frets it features a compound-radius board (7.5-12") and "vintage" locking tuners. After that build I scoured the net looking for a second originally thinking I'd make a Red to go with it, and after quite a few months I found another for sale on Ebait. Of course, I snapped it up:
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In the interim though I sort of lost interest in doing another build and instead focused on other things. It's been sitting in the shipping tube in the close for three years. Being honest, the Black hasn't really gotten as much play as I thought it would; it feels a bit too heavy and bit too "tight" if that makes sense, and most of the time I wind up reaching for one of my Teles lately anyhow (my Roadhouse is feeling a bit jealous, too, as are the Gretsches).
I've been thinking about what I should do with it and GAS has been hitting me again lately. Should I just say "nah" and move it on? Should I go ahead with the Red build such as @DavidGilmour is doing: https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/emg-dg20-build.553833/#post-4074815 (and btw, what really are the sonic differences between the two, is it worth having both)?
"Cornell Dupree" is a choice because I've been pondering my own version of this beauty, the Yamaha Pacifica Cornell Dupree sig:
yamaha-pacifica-1512cd-cornell-dupree-01.jpg

Listening to his playing has been like having a masterclass in tasteful, understated lead over chord changes; listen to Brook Benton's version of "Rainy Night In Georgia," there's actually quite lot going on there guitar-wise. The Yammy has 22 frets I know, but the headstock is vaguely Strat-like and it looks like something that would cover a ton of ground. I would need a custom-made body though and I'm not sure where the best place to go is for something like that. I haven't seen any of these for sale, much less parted out...
Another option: hold out for an Ed O'Brien Sustainer Strat body. Not only have I been digging on Radiohead a lot lately, but I'm currently working on a project for which the sustainer would come in handy. I did see a body come up on the Stratosphere but I didn't get to it in time; that's the only one I've seen so far, so it looks like it might be a bit of another protracted wait.
Or, something else entirely? What would you do with it?
 
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Ebidis

Providing the world with flat bends since 1985
Nov 14, 2013
29,535
Alabama
It sounds like you like the Cornell Dupree idea. I don't know about the Yamaha body, but you can get a body like this just about anywhere. You would have to rout for the middle pickup, and mod a pickguard, but what the heck it's a project. Plus you have plenty of cavity space for just about any custom electronics you like. You could even add contours if you wanted to.

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Cali Dude

Senior Stratmaster
Aug 9, 2020
1,457
California
That's a really cool looking build. Go for that one. It looks really versatile. You guys with the talent to build guitars inspire me. Quite impressive!
 

Believer7713

The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein
Silver Member
Dec 27, 2016
17,357
KC
If you decide to 86 the idea then let me know. I am needing another neck.
 
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Baelzebub

Dr. Stratster
Nov 1, 2019
15,306
State of Disbelief
TL;DR: What should I do with this badass neck?

Back in 2016, I did a Gilmour Black Strat build https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/it-begins-gilmour-black-strat-build.389521/ using a Hot Rod 50's neck as shown in the thread. If you're not familiar with the model, it was intended as a bit of a sleeper; it looked like an old-school Strat but had modern electronics and features, so for example while the neck only has 21 frets it features a compound-radius board (7.5-12") and "vintage" locking tuners. After that build I scoured the net looking for a second originally thinking I'd make a Red to go with it, and after quite a few months I found another for sale on Ebait. Of course, I snapped it up:
View attachment 428153
In the interim though I sort of lost interest in doing another build and instead focused on other things. It's been sitting in the shipping tube in the close for three years. Being honest, the Black hasn't really gotten as much play as I thought it would; it feels a bit too heavy and bit too "tight" if that makes sense, and most of the time I wind up reaching for one of my Teles lately anyhow (my Roadhouse is feeling a bit jealous, too, as are the Gretsches).


Could be worse. At least the project isn't another roof...:D
I've been thinking about what I should do with it and GAS has been hitting me again lately. Should I just say "nah" and move it on? Should I go ahead with the Red build such as @DavidGilmour is doing: https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/emg-dg20-build.553833/#post-4074815 (and btw, what really are the sonic differences between the two, is it worth having both)?
"Cornell Dupree" is a choice because I've been pondering my own version of this beauty, the Yamaha Pacifica Cornell Dupree sig:
yamaha-pacifica-1512cd-cornell-dupree-01.jpg

Listening to his playing has been like having a masterclass in tasteful, understated lead over chord changes; listen to Brook Benton's version of "Rainy Night In Georgia," there's actually quite lot going on there guitar-wise. The Yammy has 22 frets I know, but the headstock is vaguely Strat-like and it looks like something that would cover a ton of ground. I would need a custom-made body though and I'm not sure where the best place to go is for something like that. I haven't seen any of these for sale, much less parted out...
Or, something else entirely? What would you do with it?
 

DavidGilmour

Strat-Talker
Sep 16, 2020
380
united kingdom
TL;DR: What should I do with this badass neck?

Back in 2016, I did a Gilmour Black Strat build https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/it-begins-gilmour-black-strat-build.389521/ using a Hot Rod 50's neck as shown in the thread. If you're not familiar with the model, it was intended as a bit of a sleeper; it looked like an old-school Strat but had modern electronics and features, so for example while the neck only has 21 frets it features a compound-radius board (7.5-12") and "vintage" locking tuners. After that build I scoured the net looking for a second originally thinking I'd make a Red to go with it, and after quite a few months I found another for sale on Ebait. Of course, I snapped it up:
View attachment 428153
In the interim though I sort of lost interest in doing another build and instead focused on other things. It's been sitting in the shipping tube in the close for three years. Being honest, the Black hasn't really gotten as much play as I thought it would; it feels a bit too heavy and bit too "tight" if that makes sense, and most of the time I wind up reaching for one of my Teles lately anyhow (my Roadhouse is feeling a bit jealous, too, as are the Gretsches).
I've been thinking about what I should do with it and GAS has been hitting me again lately. Should I just say "nah" and move it on? Should I go ahead with the Red build such as @DavidGilmour is doing: https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/emg-dg20-build.553833/#post-4074815 (and btw, what really are the sonic differences between the two, is it worth having both)?
"Cornell Dupree" is a choice because I've been pondering my own version of this beauty, the Yamaha Pacifica Cornell Dupree sig:
yamaha-pacifica-1512cd-cornell-dupree-01.jpg

Listening to his playing has been like having a masterclass in tasteful, understated lead over chord changes; listen to Brook Benton's version of "Rainy Night In Georgia," there's actually quite lot going on there guitar-wise. The Yammy has 22 frets I know, but the headstock is vaguely Strat-like and it looks like something that would cover a ton of ground. I would need a custom-made body though and I'm not sure where the best place to go is for something like that. I haven't seen any of these for sale, much less parted out...
Or, something else entirely? What would you do with it?
Ty for mentioning me.. I think your neck is worthy of a red build with emg dg20 pickups..
 

Mr. Lumbergh

needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too.
Jan 10, 2014
27,261
Initech, Inc.
That's a really cool looking build. Go for that one. It looks really versatile. You guys with the talent to build guitars inspire me. Quite impressive!
Oh, I don't have the tools or experience to do a scratch build. If I went the custom body route, I'd need to get a shop to build it.

In any event, I forgot about the EOB, which is a third possibility I forgot to mention last night.
 

Believer7713

The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein
Silver Member
Dec 27, 2016
17,357
KC
Yeah, as I recall you had some noise issues to sort out on that one.
Yeah, Got most of it sorted out but never could beat it all. With the use of a noise gate we could get it completely quiet while not playing and with the volume that he plays at the guitar is loud enough to cover the sound pretty much completely. It's kind of like playing over 60 cycle hum. You mask it though it's there you don't notice it while playing.
I was able to beat it completely with this one though.
 

Mr. Lumbergh

needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too.
Jan 10, 2014
27,261
Initech, Inc.
Yeah, Got most of it sorted out but never could beat it all. With the use of a noise gate we could get it completely quiet while not playing and with the volume that he plays at the guitar is loud enough to cover the sound pretty much completely. It's kind of like playing over 60 cycle hum. You mask it though it's there you don't notice it while playing.
I was able to beat it completely with this one though.

Blocked. :(
 

DavidGilmour

Strat-Talker
Sep 16, 2020
380
united kingdom
Can you comment on the sonic differences between the DG20 set and a typical Strat set?
Yes I can. My Mexican strat had the stock pickups in. Hum, buzzing, dirty muffled and inconsistent sustain, terrible. I upgraded the stock pickups and put tex-mex in, a nice upgrade, better sustain, sharper twangier sound, but still the him and buzz present. Then the dg20.. Silent, like getting out of diesel tank and sitting in an electric car.. Its this thing actually switched on running. Yes. Very quiet. Play and you are rewarded with a very full sound, with bass, mid and treble all in the right places, little bells seem to twinkle in the Background.. Sustain its perfect. Tweak the exg and spc and you hand a scoop of delicious added.. Bends are really nice.. Just amazing.
 


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