AVRI’s Are they some of the best out there?

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  1. jayaitch

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    I sure do love mine, they are really fine music making devices. AVRIs we’re always my favorite production Fenders. Probably when it comes down to it, I’d have to say its the neo-luddite old school electronics. The pickups used in the series are pretty damn great and really always were. The one detail that always griped me were the neck profiles. I think the revamping of the series in 2012 for much more vintage accurate necks, coupled with the consistent pickup mojo, is what made the last iteration so much fun.
     
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    The Japanese stuff is quite good, but in my estimation not as good, and for two reasons. The sometimes use of Basswood, which I think is much too soft, and the pickups just arent as up to par as Fender US stuff. Otherwise, great build quality and totally worth having.
     
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    The first AVRIs were deliberately made with slim necks because that is what people wanted in the 1980s, apparently. There was never any intention to be "vintage correct" - that wasn't even "a thing" in 1982. This is why the neck profiles of the early 57RIs were similar to/the same as the 62RIs. It was deliberate, they didn't get it wrong.

    It was only later that the fat neck brigade managed to persuade Fender to remove nice slim necks from the range & replace them with the half tree trunk necks that's all you seem to be able to get from Fender these days.
     
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    And the necks are too fat & covered with thick poly. Yuck!
     
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    You've never played mine, so your opinion is invalid. :D
     
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    Indeed so!
    An FSR AVRI “62 here, which I presume is almost a CS concerning quality, sound, everything. Love it!
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    No, the Factory Special Runs were standard production guitars, nothing to do with the Custom Shop. They were often AVRIs (or similar) in special colours or with something different like bigger frets.

    What colour is that? It's gorgeous!
     
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    Sure, but I’ve played and owned Japanese Fender guitars. They are consistently made, and thats a good thing.
     
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    Ah now see “too fat” and thats more or less the Fender neck profile for me. And I’ve never had a real problem with sticky necks.
     
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    I get that they're not American, but neither am I, so I just judge on what's in my hands not where it was made.
     
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    I have a fun factoid about this. That first Fullerton production AVRI neck profile and pre FMIC is the exact, not close to, but the exact slim neck profile as the Peavey T60. I have this straight from the source. A primary reason being that at the time, there was much internal debate about just what neck profile should be used for the reissue series. An “executive decision” was made to get production rolling.
     
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    I think from a quality standpoint they are as good as any MIA Strats that Fender has produced, but I'm not crazy about vintage specs, so they are not "the best" for me.
     
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    Hey I’m jealous! Ya’ll have access to lots of quality Japanese stuff thats “illegal” here.
     
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    What? Judging a guitar on its own merits instead of where it's made?

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    And you can...

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    2015-12-29_07-00-35.jpg I like em
     
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    I love my 2000 '57 Re-Issue
    ESPECIALLY after I had 6105 frets installed.
    It has that thang
     
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    @stratman323 Is correct for the early reissues not have a acronym. Not sure why but they didn’t. A lot of confusion here with the AVRI term.

    It seems to get mixed in to every reissue possible but it’s not a huge deal to say your guitar is avri, people get it. It’s when it’s time to sell and the prices for these new ones/old ones are all over the place. Then really have to look into what you have. You put 59AVRI in your ad, you’re going to get “what year was it made” because there was no such thing as stratman was pointing out. There was a AV59 though. Confusing.

    Not sure on these exact dates but the AVRI(American Vintage reissues) 1998-2011
    AV(American Vintage) dropping the RI 2011-2017
    AO(American Original) still no RI acronym 2018 to present

    Still not sure why the early stuff didn’t get a acronym though. My favourite series is the AV and I’m in a hunt to collect them all. These ones to me will be true Vintage correct collectors.