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Bassbreaker 45 or Mojotone 5E3 Kit?

Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by Dudeman7, Sep 19, 2020.

  1. ProSonicLive

    ProSonicLive Senior Stratmaster

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    I have not found a use for a 5e3, But I have used a bassbreaker several times and found it quite versatile for my setup.
     
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    AlNiCo speaker is a must. My favorite is the Red Fang. But its only available used. The next one would be the Celestion Gold.
     
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    A friend had an Uncle Spot (Ron Veil) 5e3 amp, I played through it a few times, sounded glorious, but what do I know i like my modded Blues jr
     
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    The 45 is the only one I have played through and I was quite impressed with the OD tones. Part of the appeal for me is the EL34 power section.

    Overdriven EL84s don't do much for me. The Bassbreakers may well be the exception, though. The typical Vox drive is not something I have ever been drawn to but if the BBs do it better than Vox, it may be an option down the road.
     
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    Mojotone jtm45 kit
     
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    Those are two very different amps, so it is almost unfair to compare them. Don't be swayed by the 5e3 bias here in this thread. If you search around, you will find tons of people who have BBS and love them. I had a BB and it was fine. But eventually I sold it, and after some twists and turns ended up with a 5e3, which I think is a keeper.

    The advantage of the BB is the features. You have different channels, different voicings and gain stages, all the modern conveniences on the back (effects loop, direct XLR out, etc). The amp sounds good, and there are a lot of tones in there, so you are bound to find one you like. It's very versatile, so if you are looking for all these features, then it's not a bad choice. And yes, it is mass produced.

    The 5e3 has none of that stuff. No reverb, no line out. It's old school, and though you can get a range of tones, to my ears it pretty much always sounds like a 5e3 no matter how you set it. So the question is how much you like that particular sound. Plus, in your case you would have to build it, so it's also a question of how much you want to do that.

    For $1,000, you have a zillion choices available to you.
     
  7. Scott Baxendale

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    Check out Greer Amps. Nick Greer makes some of the best Amps and pedals at affordable prices. He has it dialed in and you can talk to him directly. He really knows his stuff. I own many vintage tube and boutique amps. Currently in my studio setup I am using two of his amps through a UAOX into my recording rig and I get every sound I could ever want through this system. I use the amazing 3 watt Mini Chief and his Lightening 30 watt Amp. The Mini Chief can cover all the bases of the small tube Champ style amps and then some, because you can make it sound huge. And the Lightening 30 watt is similar to my Matchless and is very versatile.
     
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    I had a BB15 when they came out. After a few months I was ready to toss it off my third floor balcony
     
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    I didn't read all the posts but do want to mention that Weber also offers a 5E3 kit. tedweber.com/5e3-c-kt/
     
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    can't go wrong with a 5E3 , or any of the tube Deluxes ... Tweed , Brown (my fave), Blackface , Silverface , with or without reverb ...

    don't really care for the BassBreaker series .
     
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    That will likely be the second kit. Cool amps for sure!
     
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    5E3.
     
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    I can't comment on the Bassbreaker as I've never played through one, but I'm an eternal sucker for a DIY project.
     
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    Please be aware that the Mojotone "JTM45" is not a JTM45. No offense to Mojotone (I'm using their pickups in my Firebird) and I've always heard that their amp kits are first-rate. But words mean something and that is NOT a JTM45.

    The specs in what they are calling a JTM45 are nowhere near an actual JTM45. Wrong transformer, too much wattage, and wrong tubes. Using EL34s (actually some variant of an EL34), and making it 45 watts actually puts it--if anything--closer to a JTM50 Black Flag. Not that that's a bad amp. The actual Black Flag was a great amp. But it is not a JTM45. The JTM45 was about 30 watts, and used 5881s in the beginning and then moved to KT66s a little later in the run. They didn't used el34s until the JTM50. They don't sound anything alike.

    So, that's just something to be aware of. If you are looking for the sound of a JTM45, and want to do it in kit form, I'd recommend another manufacturer. But if you are looking for something closer in sound to a Marshall 50 watt 1987 or Black Flag, it's probably a great kit.
     
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    Good info and right you are. Thanks!
     
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    Build their Bassman and it'd be closer. LOL
     
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    Not familiar with Bass Breaker. My amp search ended when I completed my Mojotone 5e3 with Celestion Gold.
     
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    And this is the source of some (much?) consternation on the Blues Jr, BB, and many other modern Fender amps.

    To be blunt... EL84s (and EL34s) don't belong in a "tweed" or tweed-like or tweed-tribute amp with a Fender nameplate.
    Leo used the 6V6s and various grades 6L6s, later designs going to the 5881.

    Take a Blues Jr, put it in a larger cabinet and better speaker, or run it into a 4x10, and it still won't sound like a tweed amp.
    There's more than one reason Marshalls don't sound like Fenders, and one of those reasons is the EL series tubes.
     
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    6g9 Tremolux started with 6bq5's. It sounded just like a Fender.;)

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    Right. It ain't the tubes, it's the circut.
     
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