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Discussion in 'Other Guitar Discussion' started by sadmoodyfrazier, Dec 3, 2019.

  1. RaySachs

    RaySachs Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    You obviously have to know the scales (minor and major pentatonic is all you really NEED to know), but once you know 'em, stop playing them. You don't have to be super fast and dexterous at playing them - you just have to know how to find the notes automatically. So once you have 'em down, which it sounds like you do, just stop playing scales and just play music. Limit yourself to one spot on the fretboard and see how much you can do with five notes in one position. Dig waaaaaay in to a single note a few times. Just think about phrasing only, not the playing part. Focus on bends, on vibrato, etc. You just have to change your focus away from the playing to the music. It's hard to make that switch when you've been caught up in learning scales, but the scales will always be in the same places - it's time to starting working on how to USE those notes now that you know where they live...

    -Ray
     
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    Bingo!

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  3. amstratnut

    amstratnut Peace thru Music. Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Keep it short.

    Backing tracks go on forever. You should not.
     
  4. BallisticSquid

    BallisticSquid Senior Stratmaster

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    Agreed.

    Also try limiting the area in the fretboard you are using. Try working with 3 or 4 notes on just 2 strings. Repetition (as somebody else mentioned) and adding small variations works really well. It makes your playing sound purposeful rather than meandering. Learning how to do this allows you to get a LOT of mileage from your licks and phrases.
     
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  5. Seamus OReally

    Seamus OReally Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    Slow down, think, pay attention, listen to yourself.... imagine what you want to play and then play it.
     
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    Dr Improbable Strat-O-Master

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    Solos are like a Commando raid; get in, do what you've got to do, and get out.
     
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    One thing I discovered for playing over a dominant blues.....I7....IV7....V7, is that the dorian scale of the key you are in has all but one note of both major and minor pentatonics.
    So, if you know the major scale, you have all your pentatonics down.
    Lets say we are in A.
    You can blaze over the I IV V using the A dorian scale, and you will be playing both A maj and A min pent.
    (A dorian is the same thing as G maj)
    So, play a major scale one whole step down from whatever key you are in. Practice so youll youll know where the good notes are.
    Also, learn some dominant arpeggios...they can spice it up a bit.
    Here is an example of me improvising using this method .
    I dont go with major tonalities often, but they are in there....
    Listen to #73 take 2 by heltershelton on #SoundCloud
     
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    Stratafied Strat-O-Master

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    I’ve heard it said that sometimes less is more , I’ve seen guys milk one position and make it sound great.
     
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    I recommend learning a few Hendrix tunes. Maybe Little Wing.
     
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    Follow your soul and keep it real.
     
  11. sadmoodyfrazier

    sadmoodyfrazier Strat-O-Master

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    Thanks to everyone of you for helping me with your precious advices. I'll read everyone of them more deeply asap, because actually I'm working hard and I'm much more at work than at home. I also should set up all my guitars but I have really no time. I leave home at 6 AM to come back at 6 or 7 PM... So... It's an hard life. Hopefully I'll have some time this weekend even if I have to study and assembly my new IKEA bed because the old one broke. Life is a mess. Thank you so much.
     
  12. heltershelton

    heltershelton BANNED Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Make time.
     
  13. jbylake

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    Go to You Tube and watch the live version of SRV with Johnny Copeland doing Tin Pan Alley. Listen to the song at least twice. The second time pay particular attention to his soloing and what his hands are doing. It's amazing how he can do what should be easy into something extraordinary.

    I'm not saying try to duplicate SRV, few folks can do that well, myself included,but what he's doing with his hands to make an ordinary pentatonic scale feel and sound incredible. It my inspire you to explore new territory. You can do this with any player you want. It's like a free lesson.

    Also, if you've hit a wall, you can find a local teacher, talk for a while, tell him/her, what you want to accomplish, and take a few more lessons until you get what you need out of it. Major league Pro's do it all the time.

    Good luck, I'm sure things are going to work out for you.
     
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  14. sadmoodyfrazier

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    I've just listened to "Tin Pan Alley" and I feel truly depressed. Why he's doing the same things I do but he's sounding godly good and I sound ****ty ****?:(
     
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    Tin pan alley is friggin killer. Dont hammer yourself because you cant play just like him.
    Play it just like you.
    Ill go shutup now
     
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    Great advice! Sounds like the OP has hit a wall. It happens to people that I've know have been playing 40 years and longer. Very common, I bet there's more than one person here, myself who have gone through this.:D
     
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    Play fast as hell. It's fun.
     
  18. sadmoodyfrazier

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    You are right. It's beautiful and very funny. But if you can play very fast it's really easy to seem a great guitarist. The ability is to be a great guitarist playing slow. It's harder. Much harder.
     
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  19. mshivy

    mshivy Most Honored Senior Member

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    Basic blues scales over the chord changes:

    I chord- major pentatonic
    IV chord - minor pentatonic
    I chord - stay with minor
    V chord -major pentatonic
    IV chord- minor pentatonic

    Here’s me noodling the blues following the chord changes




    I always say learn Creams Crossroads and Hendrix’ Red House-
    Take their licks and ideas and make them your own.
     
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    You're welcome! :D



     
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