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Butter VS. Margarine?

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by roadhog96, May 27, 2018.

  1. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Ditto. Water has to be filtered to get rid of the chemical waste before it can be consumed. Tap water can burn the skin off fish.
     
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    Will Lefeurve Most Honored Senior Member

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    Yeah.. what is it that makes me think there's a little mischief going on, when the great unwashed have to be mass medicated by the water they drink.. no.. it couldn't be could it.. really..? :sneaky:
     
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    We milked at 4a.m. & 4 p.m.
    Emptied it into a 4 gallon crock in the ice box
    12-18 hrs later there'd be a half inch thick layer of cream...
    Skimmed into quart jars
    Come butter time it was set out on the counter 3 days...
    Dumped into a gal churn
    Ma would set me in the corner
    Turn the crank at about 40 rpm....
    I don't think you can buy butter like that here...
    Maybe in Europe...
     
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    Don't get me started... o_O
     
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    Will Lefeurve Most Honored Senior Member

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    Time for a cuppa.. :eek:<<<oh maybe not!!
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Oh and you can't collect rainwater, because that belongs to the water company. You can only collect grey (waste) water. What's that about?
     
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    Control.. nothing less.. things our forefathers have done for centuries is no longer legal. The ability to collect rainwater being one of them.. Mind you, I've a nasty feeling if you had the rainwater analysed you'd find some rather horrible stuff in it that shouldn't be there..
     
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    That's certainly true, as proved by the following statement...

     
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    Will Lefeurve Most Honored Senior Member

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    Well to answer that, I like to use a quote that John Pilger uses.. "Never believe anything, until its officially denied".. ;)
     
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    "The Minister has my full support"... :whistling:
     
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    Somehow I never doubted that.. ;)
     
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    Margarine is a 1970s retro thing? I don't think it's possible to buy margarine now, at least here unless its for specialist baking (and even then true partially hydrogenated products are banned) . There are other vegetable oil based stuff that has been developed instead that have got various levels of real dairy cream added.
     
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    If it isn't 100% butter, it's called margarine, low fat spread or lard, which all taste pretty much the same...
     
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    Butter for me.

    Life is good,
    Robin
     
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    If it has a milk fat content of more than 3% then it's not margarine.
    Most of the blended spreads on sale have more than 10%.

    To be low fat spread the fat contents needs to be about 40%

    Which explains why "margarine" as a word sort of disappeared in the 1970s.
     
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    When I was a kid, margarine was horrible. I'm not sure it even exists now - all of the non-butter spreads taste nice and are derived from olive oil, or sunflower oil or something similar.
     
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    Well it does help to prevent tooth decay. I grew up in a part of the country where the natural water supply contained substantial levels of Fluoride and the authorities never had a lot of choice in the matter.
     
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    While it's true that ordinary rainwater ordinarily is slightly acidic, the term acid rain refers to unnaturally strong acidity due to manmade factors, especially the burning of coal and other fossil fuels.

    EPA.gov on the subject:
    https://www.epa.gov/acidrain/what-acid-rain

    No more of a myth than climate change. This is not politics, it is science. (Of course, EPA is in the process of purging all references to climate change from their website & archives, so acid rain references might vanish also.)

    The reason acid rain is less of a problem in the US than it was in the 70s is NOT that it never existed. It's that the air has become far less polluted, thanks mostly to clean air laws. If and when the air pollution gets that bad again, we can expect acid rain to become a significant problem once more.

    China is particularly reliant on coal, and has a growing problem with this.
    https://uosm2018.wordpress.com/2014...utlining-the-causes-distribution-and-impacts/

    The Chinese recognize the problem and are pursuing ways to deal with it. They also realize there are significant economic benefits to be had, not only in mitigating the estimated $30 billion the pollution costs them annually, but in profits from technologies like solar which the US traditionally pioneered. China considers clean energy a strategic industry and has replaced the US as the world leader.
     
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    As for butter vs margarine, butter all the way for me!

    I love regular butter. Also sweet butter. And browned butter is even better. On any starch like potatoes or rice, or over veggies, or if you ever make brownies or blondies, browning the butter really amps up the flavor.

    My favorite is for popcorn- while the corn's popping, I brown the butter in another pan, then add a splash or three of Louisiana sauce. Not enough to make it hot, just to give it that incredible savory taste & aroma. Mmmmmm...
     
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    It was a joke, life does exist outside the US. :rolleyes:
     
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