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Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Parksie, May 23, 2021.
He didn't play them in the '60s.
you're right he played a Gibson 335
And then his CBS strat ruined all other guitars for him
That guy could play a broom with a string on it and make it sound good!
Think how good how could have been with a decent guitar!
It`s a 3-bolt (70s re-issue).
I've owned 2 three bolt Stratocasters. The first was a 2013 MIJ St-72 and the other is Deathtrap, the 1977 Fender. Both necks perfectly stable and with working micro tilts.
Ok, let me write some reminders that you might find on many other CBS (bashing) threads.
The 70s was a period of high production numbers for Fender.
Were there quality control problems? It appears so, but the same can be said for any period.
I, for one, am not convinced that instruments produced at any time during the company's lifetime are superior. We're talking mass produced modular instruments here not handcrafted masterpieces. Even with today's technology Fenders are still hit and miss.
CBS, although a corporate giant never consciously tried to lower the quality of the products, on the contrary they tried to increase their consistency.
The big headstock, 3 "bolt" neck and bullet truss adjusting nut were all Leo Fender's updates on his old design.
Even the "crappy" die-cast bridge is quite functional until it's worn out.
If you fancy one of those instruments, I'd say go for it but know what you're buying and make sure it's a proper functional instrument outside the "vintage" bubble created by merchants and wealthy enthusiasts who can't play in tune (or in time) good enough to save their lives.
I probably have a hard time with 70's Strats because I can't separate them from the garbage the automakers were putting out. The decade had an overall cheesy "junk" vibe about it going on. See if you can squeeze a mood ring out of the seller to sweeten the deal.
Parksie, if you're a collector then condition and originality is all that matters. Expect to pay top dollar.
If you're a player and you definitely can't try before you buy, go find a refretted one that shows some serious play wear. Bad guitars don't get played. This philosophy has landed me some awesome guitars that look like crap, but would otherwise have been out of my league.
I reckon you might be onto it Parksie. I hear what the experts are saying here, but they can’t all be crap! You might need to sift through a load of them before you found a keeper, but if you’re not in a hurry...
Those 70’s strats are very affordable out here. I’ve actually noticed a few over the past few weeks going for very reasonable prices. Like, 3K to 4K. There’s been a couple of them turn up on the Vintage Guitars Australia page on FB. There’s a drop dead gorgeous 79 with original hang tags there at the moment for 3.8K. Mind you, it’s the classic case queen that looks like it’s never been played, prolly because it’s crap! Obviously, you’d want to have a good look over it first, but it’s only a couple of hours away from you.
Well I certainly appreciate nice guitars and I like the idea of every guitar have being special in some way however just for the record I actually play around hour to 2 hours a day.
I hope the makes me more a player than a collector but who knows......
It's for Playing however I do want a guitar that is Vintage.
After everyones comments here I will try a few out in Sydney first before I commit for sure.
Hey that’s awesome, I wasn’t saying you didn’t play but your posts always seem to be about something holding a value or what’s something worth.
The 70’s strats are definitely a sweet choice but just like others have said, try before you buy. That doesn’t really seem to be a option for you so make sure there’s a return policy
It can still be vintage even if it's been refretted and is a bit worn. It'll just be cheaper and it probably also means that someone else thought it was good enough to use extensively.
Sounds terrible - what a horrible experience!
Cerb, thats good advice.
I actually don't mind a guitar that been well played and worn in.
I'll tell you what got me started on this......
A mate of mine recently had the opportunity to buy a olympic white 1970 4 bolt strat for around $9,000 - $10,000.
Ive seen these guitars advertised at starting prices of USD15k.
The olympic white on this guitar hadn't turned Banana yellow like all the others and was in top shape.
So I started looking at guitars I could afford and this lead me to 1972, 1973 strats.
Im not in any hurry and can take the time to play a few before I buy.
Ill also get over top my mates house and give his 1970 a workout as well.
No worries matey.
I'm going to take my time with this one and get to test out a few here in Sydney when they come up for sale this way I dont also have the extra cost of freight and I can make sure its a decent player.
Just laying it here. I love my two. White is 1975 with staggered polepiece pickups (dated '75 - probably some of the LAST going out that way). The Sunburst is an early '76 with flat polepiece pickups which sound almost identical. So take that whole pickup difference with a grain of salt. Both are lower output, vintage style pickups. Both sound great.
My main gigging guitar is a 1986 AVRI which is a rock. If I didn't have it before these, I'd have really fine tuned one of these and gigged with it instead. For me, the only crappy thing on my 70's Strats are the tuners. And they are still manageable, but if I were to gig with them, I'd probably swap them out. I don't care either way about the bridge. It works fine and it doesn't sound any different than my AVRI vintage style one. People are micro criticizing these 70's Strats. They are really fine. Yes, there are probably poorly setup and some loose neck pockets, but overall, it's still a Strat! Just don't overpay unless you are in "lust". LOL