Can someone explain the 22 fret hype to me?

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  1. Lost Sailor

    Lost Sailor Strat-O-Master

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    No hype when you're looking for that high E and snap the string on a 21 fret neck bending a it up a step and a half.
     
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  2. Mouse

    Mouse The Knees of Rock

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    I don’t use my fire extinguisher every day but it’s good to know it’s there if I need it.

    I prefer 22 (or 24 actually) but get along fine with 21 which 2 of my remaining 3 guitars have. That preference was born early on in my playing where it was used in many metal songs which were often in the key of E. Many solos had that full step bend on the 22nd fret.
     
  3. Ruscio

    Ruscio Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member Silver Member

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    I don’t see much hype around this feature. A 21 fret neck is a deal breaker for me. I play up there all the time. 24 frets are even better. But many people don’t want or need more than 21. Just a matter of playing style and aesthetics, and we can all get what we like.
     
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    Famous guitarist made this quote...
    "I never made any money above the fifth fret"

    Where the extra frets matter is where that places your neck pickup.
    Then your guitar tone will move.
    That's why a Les Paul sounds different than an SG.
    The tone shift can be like going from a Strat neck pickup to a Strat middle pickup, if you have a Strat and want to test what pickup position does to the tone since Strats have the same pickup in all three locations (other than reverse wound).

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  5. Handsome McClane

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    I'm doing a couple of songs now that require me to go way up there. Just bought a couple of 24 fret guitars (PRS SE and a Schecter Omen-6) to make it easier.
     
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    Wrighty Most Honored Senior Member

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    But these go to 22, it’s kinda, well, it’s one more innit?
     
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    albala Most Honored Senior Member

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    all of mine go to 22

    I'm a sucker for hype...I can't get enough.
     
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  8. hamerfan

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    Six notes more for the same money. Not a bad deal!
     
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  9. Mouse

    Mouse The Knees of Rock

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    It’s a fair point but for me, the tonal differences aren’t strong enough to justify the lack of frets. Others may think differently. We often sacrifice one thing for another. Traditional Strat players sacrifice a noise free playing experience for the sound single coils give you. Tele players sacrifice a contoured body for their sound. I’m will to sacrifice small (to my ears) tone differences for more fret access.
     
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  10. shupe13

    shupe13 Senior Stratmaster

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    27 frets or nothing.
     
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    Chont Most Honored Senior Member

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  12. Justin226

    Justin226 Senior Stratmaster

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    Well hardy-har...

    in this very thread someone comments that they won’t buy a Strat without a 22nd fret and points out that in order to get it, you need to spend more money than you would on a guitar with 21 frets. When a guitar company flouts something as a premium feature and charges more for it, I call that hype.

    not sure how to translate that into snarky, queens English.
     
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    Chont Most Honored Senior Member

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    David Gilmour used a 24 fret guitar (Bill Lewis custom) for the Money solo. He uses a standard Strat live and just plays it a little different. I like to play that solo and to play it like the recorded version you need 22. Off the top of my head that’s the only song I can think of that I fart around with that I need it for but I prefer 22 foot necks.

    I have both. My favorite neck happens to be a 22

    edit: 22 FRETS not feet. Jeez that would be a huge neck Lol.
     
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    Anacharsis Guitar Player Platinum Supporting Member

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    I rarely play above the 15th, if I'm honest, though most of my guitars have 22 frets. But if you care, you care.

    I've never seen any hype about it one way or the other.
     
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    Thank you too all the players that told me why they prefer the 22 fret neck...that’s the info I wanted.
     
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    Ain't the player series the cheapest mim?
    They have 22 frets.
    So much for paying a premium.
     
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    It depends on the music. I definitely listen to bands that have songs where 24 frets are needed.
     
  18. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Don't bother, you'd be no good at it. It's a silly topic.
     
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    Not sure that's accurate, though...

    American Originals with 21 frets cost more than American Professionals with 22 frets

    Vinteras with 21 frets cost more than Players with 22 frets

    Warmoth's base price for 21 and 22 fret necks is the same...


    But is it flouted, or mentioned in specs, more commonly? "Vintage appointments" (which often include 21-fret necks) are mentioned in marketing materials as often as 22 frets, I'll wager.

    I just don't see any "hype" around 22 frets. I think a feature like nitro finish has been massively hyped, but 22 frets are just a choice that some prefer, some don't, and many don't care.


    EDIT: and apologies to @Bob the builder - he beat me to it on the price points.
     
  20. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    The Squier Minis for £119 have 22 frets...