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Can we debunk the whole “Hand-wound pickups sound better because of how much you paid for them”

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  1. diverse379

    diverse379 Strat-O-Master

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    Wow I don’t know I know I didn’t change it how weird
     
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  2. diverse379

    diverse379 Strat-O-Master

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    The title of this thread has been changed.
    How and why would that happen??

    Seems like someone with access has a funny (not) sense of humor

    The original title was
    Can we debunk the whole “Hand-wound pickups sound better because of how much you paid for them” theory
     
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    Mansonienne Mod admin Staff Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Looks as if the big boss changed the title himself.
     
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    How do you see who changed it? I just changed it back for fun. Let's see what kind of trouble I can get in.
     
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    It's the 16 oz. I can't get my head around
    Ain't that what comes with the kid toy sets?
    Just joking
    I use a 22 and if I grab somebody's 16 I miss the nails most of the time. Different weight & length mine
     
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    s5tuart Perfecting time travel since 2525 Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Cripes! This thread is still going! :eek:
     
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    Mansonienne Mod admin Staff Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    LOL you like to live dangerously! ;)

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    arty kewpcer Strat-Talk Member

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    I paid $50 for my set of handwound strat pickups from Bootstrap? Where does that leave me? Stuck in a wormhole? Can I go through the <Last Germanic Empire> Magnet Gate into one of the other realities?
     
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    Hand winding a pickup takes a long time. It takes long enough to wind a ball of wool... What you really need to do invent a machine to do it for you...:sneaky:
     
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    I think that the title original was <Can we debunk the whole “Hand-wound pickups sound better because you paid for them”> :eek:

    It is currently showing this <Can we debunk the whole “Hand-wound pickups sound better because of how much you paid for them”> :confused:

    I am sorry but errors should be indicated whenever they arrive :D
     
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    CFFF Strat-Talker

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    I did pay the same amount for my Bootstraps and I am a happy customer :)

    I can appreciate things just because they are handmade and when you order pickups from Ryan he makes them for you and nobody else.
     
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    arty kewpcer Strat-Talk Member

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    The handwritten thank-you note on the end of the box was a kind touch. I agree on the quality. I have the 54' Pros and while I won't wax on about mojo, voodoo, or tinfoil about their special artisan attributes, or the way Ryan's thumb is shaped and the friction it applies to formvar, I will say this.

    They are exactly what he said they would be. EXACTLY. For $50. For all 3. The solder joints were rather nice.

    I'd pay another $5 for the option to have the leads twisted. That's my only recommendation. I actually feel like at that cost, I should be able to tip him for his care.
     
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    @arty kewpcer I did read some where that twisted leads add inductance and capacitance in a circuit. This would reduce the high frequences. Twisted leads might appear nicer under the pickguard but it is something I would avoid to be honest.
     
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    If they came with vindaloo I'd be happy. :)
     
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    @Thrup'ny Bit Ryan has some quite hot pickups on sale as standard but for a vindaloo you can specify more winds in his custom pickup options. :)
     
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    Oddly enough, I have seen no issues at all with high freq attenuation. I did undershoot Ryan's recommended tone cap value of 47 with a 22, which since I'm not running any no-load on the circuit will let some more upper mids get through. Very sparkly to my ear.

    I'm not saying that it doesn't exist. Just that it's not been an impact that I've noticed. My ears do tend to keen towards flute like strat tones, so I may not be the best judge here.

    And even allowing that you're 100% correct, why avoid it? Philosophically, if you like. We make all manner of other circuit mods to adjust the EQ of our guitars. Resistance, magnet compound, wire diameter, wire coating, winding patterns, tone cap values. Even some rather respected guitar astrologers debate tone cap chemistry. It's just another tool in the belt, in that case. It will also help with noise, which is why I do it.

    It was goat biryani, but I didn't have the temerity to complain. Bit cold, but the goat was cooked well. :p
     
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    I'm happy with the pickups I've got. All my guitars sound like me when I plug them in.
     
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