CDC adjusts COVID-19 deaths down to 37,308

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  1. tery

    tery Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Its a world event that only took a few months .
     
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    That was my point in posting the link. Thank you for pointing out my point. :thumb:
     
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    I fight hard not to get sucked into what are basically political arguments, having pretty much lost my membership at TDPRI because of comments I made. But this is worth it.
    If your point with the post above is that you think this is NOT serious, that it is somehow manufactured, and that 64,000 Americans have NOT died in less than 100 days, that is unbearably ignorant, and exactly the attitude that will propagate more death.
    To compare this “statistically” to the flu is completely meaningless, and makes it clear you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
    I’m done. If I’m removed from the forum, so be it. Best to everyone.
     
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    Heart attacks and other organ failures are HOW COVID KILLS!!!

    “Presume” is stated as somehow implying irresponsible, hasty conclusions. Instead, it should be viewed as saving resources for the living instead of wasting them to justify a political agenda.
     
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    Did you know that the present administration fired the entire pandemic response team in 2017? And then never replaced them.
     
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    Presumed means that they recorded the death as COVID without testing to make sure it was COVID. If you speak with any doctor that actually fills out death certificates, they will tell you that you only put down what you know as fact, not what is presumed.
     
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    I'm making observations, all of which have been gleaned from media reports, none of which are truly "political".
    As to the seriousness of the disease itself, my sister works as a nurse in a VA hospital close to NY, it's aggressive, virulent and can easily overwhelm your body if you're weak or susceptible to it.

    What I think is serious, more so than the virus itself, is the response to it, pay attention.
     
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    In this particular event, many people die of COVID 19 having never been tested. This is a fact. We know this to be true. So, if doctors can only fill out a death certificate according to "what they know as fact" they will be significantly and consistently UNDERCOUNTING deaths from COVID19.
     
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    Ahhh
    Geniuses
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    Hero's
    In the time of pandemic...
    Aren't we all...
     
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    How many died of COVID-19 without being tested? Exactly? You can't possibly provide a number because THEY WERE NOT TESTED.
     
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    Which, extended further, means YOU CAN'T DISPUTE A NUMBER. Because you have no idea.
     
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    Any hoo, I'm not trying to say it's not serious, I'm not trying to start a conspiracy thread, what I think I'm doing is comparing what they said, and what has happened and asking ... "WTF?"
    There is a very large disparity, and it puzzled me until I looked into it a bit.
     
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    Yeah, no conspiracy theorist can manage a discussion without a claim of having grasped the truth due to their plumbing the depths of the "hidden" knowledge.
     
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    I signed the Coroner’s clipboard for both my father and my previous wife. Both times, the cause of death was presumed. No further testing was necessary, so none was done.

    There is a blatant attempt here to imply negligence for political reasons.
     
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    Nevermind
     
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    I suppose it could get off on a technicality if they are anarchists.
     
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    Wow! You're saying I can't dispute a covid-19 death number that is based on deaths of patients that were never tested for covid-19. LOL!
     
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    Please shut down this thread.
     
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