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Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by sdahe, Feb 24, 2021.
tone glue is very expensive and thats why the ones from the uk cost more.
That's a question I'd like answered too, but there are a few I can say. Over decades I've used various Celestions, 75s, 65s, a Sidewinder (killer), cheap guitar Center only L-35's, V30's and there wasn't a dud in the batch, except - oddly, the Creamback 65s (dull, lack luster). My AC30 came with Chinese Greenbacks and I have a Zakk Wylde 4x12 that I stuffed with them. For me there is no other speaker, I want for nothing, at least for a while. These are wonderful speakers and if the Heritage Series actually sound different, I'm skeptical they would actually be better unless your personal taste says so.
Here IMO Chinese RI sound fine and for those that need the sound (not talking about glue tone here) to be just right Scumbacks are a solid option as well and MIA.
i put a chinese celestion in my ac4 and i think it sounds great.
If your speaker sounds good then it is good. If you don’t like the way it sounds it’s probably not because where it was made.
Call me crazy.
yeah, but now that i know mine has no tone glue it probably wont sound as good.
I know the feeling. I had a great sounding Strat that was 2 ounces over the required weight. I put it in a wood chipper.
I believe properly breaking in a speaker is more important than it’s point of origin... But what do I know...
Needle and thread instead of glue. Try it!
According to the Celestion rep there isn’t any difference at all.
The tolerances are exactly the same regardless of where the speaker is built.
I think Celestion is a great company and I believe what he is saying.
I wouldn’t say that about many companies but Celestion has it going on!
The ones from the UK cost more because the manufacturing costs are higher here than in China, which is why hardly anything is made here any more.
I buy Eminence speakers made in Kentucky. I think that they sound better and sound much more Fender like. YMMV!
yep...ive got a red fang in a drri and its killer.
This is not a question about one is sounding better than another.
It´s about sounding different or not.
If we use the V30 as an example, the UK made (availabel only through Mesa today) sounds a bit different from the Chinese made V30.
But - only you - or I can subjective say which one we mean sound better than the other.
If you - or I think the Chinese made sounds better - then it does so - for us.
If you like the sound of a specific Eminence or Jensen or another Celestion model best - then it is so - for you.
Non can say that one element is better sounding than another - you can only say what you like that one better than...
Also keep in mind that the cabinet (material, size, open/semi-open/closed, number of elements ++) affect the tone and sound.
If for example Mesa (or any manufacturer) say that it has to be this specific element to give the sound we want this combo, or cabinet to have - then it is so. No one can argue with that.
Perhaps the bigger question is do you want to support american made products and the american economy or do you want to support the slave labor factory camps of China? Rock and Roll is predominantly an american art form so why would you use things made in China to creat that art? It seems slightly contrary to me.
Celestions are British, the rest is just political and against the rules here.
I’m not really sure how that relates to my point?
MIM Starts and Teles
Made in Korea guitars
Various amps made in China and Viet Nam
Question: is it ok for a Chinese band to play rock and roll?
Not being facetious just kinda pointing out we are a multi cultured world living and working closer than before.
My issue is with the humanity and economics of guitars made in labor camp factories, by people living a poverty existence.
My favorite new band “Pinky Doodle Poodle” is from Japan and you know what? They don’t use a single Japanese made guitar and only play american made gear....go figure? One of my custom guitars, that I originally built for Travis Tritt in 1986, is currently for sale in Japan and on Reverb for $70k.
I have the same issue in my guitar shop where you can buy a suitable tool made in China and sold through Harbor Freight for a fraction of a good american made tool. But I am always aware of the cost/materials analysis of a guitar or similar product. I’m all for multi-culture art. I do like lots of Japanese models
There is almost no scenario where I would use guitars made in China unless it was my only option no matter how decent they might be because of how China treats and pays their labor force. They are too cheap.
I don’t own any amps or guitars made in China and my shop doesn’t really sell products made there either. To each his own, and I totally get why a kid with limited finances would be happy with a cheap Chinese made guitar, but for a semi pro or serious amateur guitar player it’s pretty ridiculous to continually throw good money after bad on crappy Chinese made guitars. I even feel this way about the Reverend models which aren’t bad guitars but come with this stigma attached.
I largely agree. As I said earlier in the thread it's a human rights issue for me. If anyone wants to make that political that's on them. Human rights concerns everybody regardless of ideology.