Chasing Chops

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  1. davidKOS

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    In response to the concept of chasing tone, I am asking:

    How many of you spend a lot of time "chasing chops" - learning to play better, or expanding your styles of playing, that sort of thing?
     
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  2. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    Every day.
     
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    trapdoor2 Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    Constantly. I don't do much to chase tone...but when I hear or see a technique I like, I'm all over it. Watched the video on pick harmonics/squeellies, gotta see if I can make 'em happen...
     
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    What are you doing? exercises? I'm curious.
     
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    yeah, that's the idea...see a new trick and learn to do it.
     
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    Chont Most Honored Senior Member

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    I’m desperately trying to get more adept at playing delta/country blues. I feel like it’s a style I stupidly ignored when my synapses were much younger And more functional. I have a lot less time to practice nowadays so that doesn’t help but that’s what I’m working on. It’s a fun style to be able to play by yourself so works well for me
     
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    I use a metronome so much that I count everything.
    I practice scales.....sequences...anything I can think of.
    also practice chord theory like we talk about....double stops, triads, that kind of thing.
    then I put on different backing tracks in different keys, drink a few thousand beers, and try to forget everything and just play.
    oh....and arpeggios 2,3,4.....DAMNIT!!!!!
     
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  8. Thrup'ny Bit

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    I'm always trying to expand the stuff I do, keeping my fingers and brain active, trying to stay out of the rut that is always close by. The rest of the time, I chase chops, bacon, steaks, ice cream and beer...
     
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    When I do real practice the main thing I do is try to play rhythm techniques and rhythm parts with a metronome.
     
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    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985

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    I have been playing with other people, and also recording a lot more in the last couple of years. Along with learning a variety of songs that I would usually never learn on my own, and participating in the challenge threads, which exposes me to playing styles that I have not done before, which has caused me to bone up on my theory.

    All of the above has made a noticeable improvement in my playing.
     
  11. Mr. Lumbergh

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    I warm up with “Guitar Gym” exercises. I should also work on some chord techniques and scales though too.
     
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    Which turns out to be a real thing!
     
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    Been chasing chops forever.

    I have some things that I can "kind of play". The main riffs in YYZ, the main riff in "I'm Just a Girl" are examples. I have some fast licks I regularly add to my improvisation at gigs. Sometimes I hit them, sometimes I don't. The percentage of success has been pretty much the same.

    What's frustrating is that my chops are at a plateau. For the past year or two, I'm at a point where one day I'm a little better...the next day those gains seem to have left me. This is the way it always has been, but the overall upward trend is now pretty flat.

    When my playing is really "on" seems to be related to me playing a lot of guitar rehearsing for a gig. Life won't let me keep playing that much guitar everyday, so I've accepted where I'm at.
     
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  14. AncientAx

    AncientAx Still hacking ....

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    I've been chasing other peoples chops since the beginning ....... I'm buried somewhere deep in there !
     
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    Oh and I'm trying to get a short version of the George Benson thing sorted out, working from music, not videos. It'll have to be short because I can only play in short bursts and don't want to cheat and upset @fezz parka.
     
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    I certainly don't worry about tone, that's easy. I always make an effort to understand what I might be trying to play over. If you guess the changes you have to be really lucky. My technique is pretty bad, I use four fingers sometimes but not always when I could. I know how to harmonize scales but I can't do it in my head. I work at fingering the commonly used scales anywhere on the fretboard.
     
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    For me, and in order of importance:

    1) Tone. Tone is king (I'm a blues guy). If you hit one note with good tone, it'll sound good.

    2) Timing. Using king tone, my note(s), with good timing, I'm getting somewhere.

    3) Technique. Building technique expands upon tone, notes and timing (vibrato, bends etc).

    4) Chops. My chops are mine albeit influenced by what I've listened to over time. It's important to me to develop my own voice and chops as much as possible.

    5) Theory. Uh...need work here but playing guitar is a visceral experience for me.

    Take all the above and add tons of hours playing and practicing (I use to practice 8 - 12 hrs a day when I was younger) is where it is at for me. I'm not saying I'm good, because I'm not, but I am my own me and am always striving to get better. :)
     
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  18. heltershelton

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    if you know all the patterns of the same scale you can do it in your head......for instance, if you play scales 2 and 4 from this chart, they will be harmonized.
    harmonic minor.png
     
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    i certainly do.
     
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  20. AncientAx

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    If it wasn't for chasing chops I doubt i would even be playing a guitar ,
     
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