Classic Les Paul sound for my Strat

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  1. Snicklefritz

    Snicklefritz Strat-Talk Member

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    That's a sweet looking Jazzmaster.
     
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    The scale length is the main thing. I have a Tele-Gib I built. Two PAF humbuckers. 25.5 scale. Sounds like a Fat Telecaster.

    A Melody Maker with those single coils still sounds Gibson like. Why? 24.75 scale.
     
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    A Strat will always sound like a Strat. I tried and tried for years, but the Les Paul Studio sounds nothing like a Strat, either.
    You can run pickups in series, ride your tone knob, that will get you something.
     
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    Dimarzio breed.

    It was designed to get the les paul type of sound from Steve van's jem.

    It works for strats too.

    I think the Duncan blues Saraceno parallel axis does the same.
     
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    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985

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    The classic Les Paul sound is a PAF. There are lots of companies that market PAF style pickups.
     
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    357mag Senior Stratmaster

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    The Duncan Custom Custom is another good choice for a bridge pickup.
     
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    David Garner Senior Stratmaster

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    As others said, you won’t get Les Paul tones. Too many differences in construction. But you can get great humbucker tones.

    I love the JB in the Strat in my avatar. The Pearly Gates works well in Strats. A Custom Custom or Super Distortion would too. I prefer the JB because it works with 250k to 300k pots and gets vintage tone when you dial back the volume. My main tip is deck the trem. It really thickens up the tone. Still not as thick as my LPs, but it’s a great sound.
     
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    jvin248 Senior Stratmaster

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    A single coil Strat pickup will fit diagonally in a a humbucker slot. I converted an HSS to SSS that way, even putting the pickup in the reverse/Hendrix angle. Then I wired it with the Armstrong Blender mod ... I had all the classic SSS Strat tones plus could dial up to HSH.
    Find a piece of plastic sheet you can cut to convert the humbucker pickguard hole to single coil.

    Guitar tones are not the wood or scale length. Tones come from the pickups, pots 'n caps actual measured values as they have a wide tolerance, and where/how you pick (which can be influenced by chassis ergonomics, like Strat volume knob placement would have curtailed a lot of Hendrix's tones since he played where that knob blocks most players).

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    PCollen Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    Looks like you will need a Trembucker (F-spaced) pickup due to the wider ( greater than 2 inches E-to-e ) string spacing on Fender guitars.
     
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    I think your best bet is to investigate wiring schemes and EQ. If you already have a humbucker in the bridge, EQ should get you into LP territory. If it doesn't, you might be able to split the humbucker so it doesn't overpower the singles and run them in series. This gets you a wider signal range. You can do a lot with cap and pot values, too!

    If you are really determined to do this, I bet you get closer with a P-90 and reverse wound middle than you will with a PAF.
     
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    Snicklefritz Strat-Talk Member

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    Thanks @tinkertoy for letting me know about the breed.

    Everyone on this thread provided excellent feedback and I looked into all suggested setups. I was set on the Dimarzio 36th Ann. PAF then I heard The Breed in a demo. The Breed was a little less bright and fatter sounding which sounded better for my tastes. Plus, I love Dimarzios.

    Look what showed up today:
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    Yes, I went with the neck pickup (I have my reasons). I may pair this with my extra Texas Special single coils.

    Big thank you to Mike's Music Shop for getting me this guy so quickly.
    https://www.ebay.com/usr/banjomikez
     
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    Stormy Monday Blooze daddy Silver Member

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    why would this be different than a Bad Bob or an EP Booster?
     
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    The LPB-1 is like a fat boost. Adds lower mids.
     
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    joe_cpwe Senior Stratmaster

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    Not sure it sounds just like a Les Paul, but a Duncan Custom Custom sure sounds good.

    I think the scale length, bridge & tail piece, and body make big differences between a Strat and LP.

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    Going to disagree slightly on that: It's too simple to add anything.

    However, IME it usually cuts highs just a shade. Some versions (there were lots of component value variations) might trim a little bass. If you do both those things and then turn the volume control up to compensate, you might seem to be getting a mid boost.
     
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    thanks
     
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    The Electronic Harmonix LPB-1 and the Screaming Bird are basically the same pedal with one major difference: the coupling cap value. In the LPB-1, it's a 0.15uF.

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    This doesn't scoop anything...and the more gain you use the fatter it sounds.

    It's tried and true George. Great pedal for boosting lower mids on low wind vintage single coils..
     
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    Stormy Monday Blooze daddy Silver Member

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    I will look into these. I have become almost entirely a humbucker user. I can't see to find my sound using my strat. Last night I swapped back to one of my humbucker guitars half way through our weekly jam.

    Grazie
     
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    Ordered. News at 11.
     
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    My LPB-1 arrived. Sounds like different frequencies are boosted compared to my EP Booster. So, I will try this out in the mix next when the guys come over.

    Grazie
     
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