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Classic Player 50's Strat Pickup Switching

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by PCollen, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. PCollen

    PCollen Senior Stratmaster

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    I'm on the fringe of getting real serious about buying a CP50's Strat (like I need another..have 2 Strats already). Been reading lots of reviews on the CP50 Strat..all good. But many reviews state that the #4 switch position gives neck and bridge pickups vs. neck and middle, contrary to what the Fender specs on the guitar state. I've never figured out how to get neck and bridge pickups together without screwing up the whole order of things. So are these guys just mistaken on this matter, or did Fender actually have this wiring at one time ?
     
  2. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    The one I owned and others I know of have 4 as bridge and neck.
     
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    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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  4. PCollen

    PCollen Senior Stratmaster

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    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    The apparently have changed that then. I honestly prefer the mid/neck better than the bridge/neck.
     
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    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    That just says it has a reverse middle, which mine did. Two was the only hum-free position, if I remember correctly. Like I said, they could have changed.
     
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    MitchBreeze Strat-Talk Member

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    Yeah I bought a 60th anniversary classic players 50's strat the other day. 4 is neck and bridge, and a "ghost" position in between 4 and 3 that lets you get neck and middle
     
  8. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    The switch on the newer models must be different to the ones made back in '06.
     
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    The original '06 service diagram shows a superswitch with position 4 as neck and bridge.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    I was talking about the "ghost" position between 3 & 4 giving neck and middle. Not possible on the original switch.
     
  11. Skinny Nitro

    Skinny Nitro Senior Stratmaster

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    The switch hasn't changed afaik, it was part number 0050610000 which became 0992251000 when Fender started to market the parts range.
    Still Electroswitch "Oak-Grigsby".
    Could be the recent ones aren't assembled as precisely and allow the "ghost" position.
     
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    My 2011 had a super switch with 2 rows of solder tags that I swapped for the standard 5 way Oak Grigsby. I love the neck/middle combo.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    As fars as I can see, the way the switch is wired
    I've thought about this very carefully over the last ten years and decided against it every time. I decided each time to use my other Strat for 'must have' middle & neck or no tone bridge pickup. In theory it sounds great. In practice I just keep playing whichever guitar I happen to be using.
     
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    I also added a micro switch when I made it into a Gilmour style replica so I now have both options.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    I added the microswitch to one of my Strats way back in the 80s. I realised after a while that I never used it, so out it came and left a hole in the scratchplate, which then had to be replaced ... Sometimes my good ideas turn out to be quite expensive wastes of time. ;)
     
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  17. Mr. Lumbergh

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    I put it in my latest as I intended for it to be a Gilmour replica, but I also find the B+N on a Strat to be very underwhelming compared to a Tele.
     
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    PCollen Senior Stratmaster

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    I hate ghost positions..they scare me. I can easily knock the lever out of that ghost position
    at the most inopportune times
     
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    Hi ! I have this same guitar and just discovered that position 4 is bridge / neck.

    I’d love to try neck/middle, are you saying there is no rewiring needed ? What is the ‘ghost’ position ?
     
  20. esseff

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    Ya my 2016 is bridge and neck. I'm happy.
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