Classic player 50s

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  1. PCollen

    PCollen Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    The confusion could be easily resolved by simply reading the specifications. It's clear from the description of the guitar what the "modern features" are.
     
  2. guitarman1984

    guitarman1984 Senior Stratmaster

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    Yes, I know the specs by memory, however for most of the people classic series, classic players and also the recent "players" are puzzling and they get frequently confused.
    I can distinguish them just looking at them, but you have to know what you have to look for!
     
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  3. archetype

    archetype Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    Pickups are different and neck profiles are different between the Classic Player and Classic series.
     
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    What is the difference in neck profiles?
     
  5. PCollen

    PCollen Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    The trem bridge on the Classic Player Strats is functionally the same, but physically slightly different, than that on the American Pro Strat and is NOT a Custom Shop item. The Am Pro bridge baseplate is the same as used on the late model American/Amer. Std. Strat's with bent steel saddles and has a slightly heavier, thicker baseplate material than the CP50 and a different trem block. The trem arm on the CP is screw-in, vs. pop-in on the Am Pro. The most apparent difference, although possibly the least important, is that the back of the Am Pro trem baseplate, where the intonation screw holes are, extends 100% across the back of the baseplate, edge to edge, where on the CP it stops even with the trem bar mounting hole similar to the vintage Fender trem baseplates . To me, the biggest difference would be the pop-in vs. screw-in trem arm. I'd favor the latter.

    Classic Player Trem: https://www.stratcat.biz/007-2253-000.shtml

    American Professional Trem: https://www.stratcat.biz/099-2004-000.shtml
     
  6. archetype

    archetype Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    Classic has Fender's generic soft V. Classic Player has the 10/56 soft V, so named because that's when it first appeared (inconsistantly, of course) on Strats. It's fatter, typically, all the way up the neck.
     
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    Not sure if you are referring to this model which i have new from 2010
    The Spec is as below and i must admit it seems to be a really well made guitar!
    I was initially concerned about having a Mexican Strat due to how the American Strats are supposed to be the "real deal" but i was not disapointed i absolutely love it!
    I will say though i have never owned or played an American strat so cannot compare, Im just saying i wasn't disapointed


    Product Specs

    Model Name: Classic Series '50s Stratocaster®, Maple Fingerboard, Fiesta Red
    Model #0131002340
    Series: Classic
    Country Of Origin: MX
    Color: Fiesta Red
    Body: Alder
    Body Finish: Polyester
    Body Shape: Stratocaster®
    Neck Material: Maple
    Neck Finish: Gloss Urethane
    Neck Shape: Soft "V"
    Scale Length: 25.5" (648 mm)
    Fingerboard: Maple
    Fingerboard Radius: 7.25" (184.1 mm)
    Number of Frets: 21
    Frets Size: Vintage Style
    String Nut: Synthetic Bone
    Nut Width: 1.650" (42 mm)
    Position Inlays: Black Dot
    Truss Rods: Standard
    Bridge Pickup: Vintage-Style Single-Coil Strat®
    Middle Pickup: Vintage-Style Single-Coil Strat®
    Neck Pickup: Vintage-Style Single-Coil Strat®
    Controls: Master Volume, Tone 1. (Neck Pickup), Tone 2. (Middle Pickup)
    Pickup Switching: 5-Position Blade: Position 1. Bridge Pickup, Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup, Position 3. Middle Pickup, Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup, Position 5. Neck Pickup
    Pickup Configuration: SSS
    Bridge: 6-Saddle Vintage-Style Synchronized Tremolo
    Hardware Finish: Chrome
    Tuning Machines: Vintage-Style
    Pickguard: 1-Ply White
    Control Knobs: Aged White Plastic
    Strings: Fender® USA 250R Nickel Plated Steel (.010-.046 Gauges)
    Unique Features: Aged Knobs and Switch Tip, Vintage Styling, Synthetic Bone Nut
    Included Accessories: Deluxe Gig Bag
    Dimensions: 5.00x15.00x42.00 IN
    Weight: 14.02 LB
     
  8. achar073

    achar073 Strat-Talk Member

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    Here are the specs for a classic player 50's. I don't see a 10/56 v neck profile mentioned so not sure of the source of this information.

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    Designed by Fender Custom Shop Master Builder Dennis Galuszka, the Classic Player '50s Stratocaster guitar features an alder body, maple neck with a 9.5" radius and 21 medium jumbo frets, '57/'62 vintage-style single-coil pickups (reverse wound/reverse polarity middle pickup), custom two-point vintage-style tremolo, five-way switch and custom pickup switching, and Gotoh vintage-style locking tuners.


    Specifications:

    BODY:

    Body Material: Alder
    Body Finish: Polyester
    Body Shape: Stratocaster

    NECK:

    Neck Material: Maple
    Neck Finish: Gloss Urethane
    Neck Shape: Soft "V"
    Scale Length: 25.5" (648 mm)
    Fingerboard: Maple
    Fingerboard Radius: 9.5" (241 mm)
    Number of Frets: 21
    Fret Size: Medium Jumbo
    String Nut: Synthetic Bone
    Nut Width: 1.650" (42 mm)
    Position Inlays: Dot
    Truss Rod Nut: 3/16" Hex Adjustment
    Neck Plate: 4-Bolt Custom

    ELECTRONICS:

    Bridge Pickup: American Vintage Single-Coil Strat
    Middle Pickup: Reverse Wound/Reverse Polarity American Vintage Single-Coil Strat
    Neck Pickup: American Vintage Single-Coil Strat
    Controls: Master Volume, Tone 1. (Neck Pickup), Tone 2. (Middle Pickup)
    Pickup Switching: 5-Position Blade: Position 1. Bridge Pickup, Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup, Position 3. Middle Pickup, Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup, Position 5. Neck Pickup
    Pickup Configuration: SSS

    HARDWARE:

    Bridge: 2-Point Synchronized Tremolo with Vintage-Style Stamped Steel Saddles
    Hardware Finish: Nickel/Chrome
    Tremolo Arm Handle: Vintage-Style Tremolo Arm
    Tuning Machines: Vintage-Style Locking
    Pickguard: 1-Ply White
    Control Knobs: Aged White Plastic
    Switch Tips: Aged White
     
  9. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    The guitar under discussion is the Classic Player 50s. Brief specs are

    • Alder body
    • Maple neck with a 9.5" radius
    • 21 medium jumbo frets
    • Gotoh vintage-style locking tuning machines
    • 57/62 vintage-style single-coil pickups (reverse wound/reverse polarity middle pickup)
    • Custom 2-point vintage-style tremolo
    • 5-way switch and custom switching
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    This is wrong. This is the correct diagram:

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  11. achar073

    achar073 Strat-Talk Member

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    I believe you are correct. The specs were a copy paste from a retailer's website.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    I know I'm right. I've had one since they first came out in 2006.

    Fender had the wrong specs on their own website for at least five years.
     
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    achar073 Strat-Talk Member

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    Yes, that is what I'm saying. You're right. I've seen several other places that mentioned the different wiring on this guitar.
     
  14. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    guitarman1984 Senior Stratmaster

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    This is right. But there's also a hidden 6th position in the superswitch which is installed in these, where you can still get the neck+middle configuration.
     
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    What year was the American Standard that you dislike compared to the MIM Classic player? Honestly I haven't played anyting but my own American Standard from 2012-13 in years so I'm just wondering. Even though it seems there is a "ghost switch" position where you can rig it, I don't like the fact that you cannot combine the neck and middle pickups easily at all - that setting and the neck pup is where I spend most of my time. I'd like to check out the new MIM and MIA lines though - too bad I can't go to an authorized dealer yet.
     
  18. archetype

    archetype Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    I'm not coming up with a good reference for the 10/56 profile. IIRC when I bought mine in 2012 the 10/56 profile was part of the marketing copy. It's got roughly the same thickness dimensions as the average Classic 50s, but feels bigger in the hand due to the profile.
     
  19. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    The neck on mine is comfortable but skinny, compared to my ST54, which is thicker at the first fret than the CP50 at the twelfth. :D

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  20. Andrew Wasson

    Andrew Wasson Senior Stratmaster

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    I don’t disagree with you but somebody ought to have told Fender that the Classic Player Bridge isn’t a Custom Shop part because they made quite a fuss in their literature about the Classic Player Strats using a CS 2-point bridge and that those models were the only production line guitars Fender produced that used the Custom Shop 2-point Bridge. Yadda, yadda, yadda.

    Interesting observation about the back of the baseplate. I’d never noticed that. Good to see that replacements are available and reasonably priced too. The one on mine is really smooth. It feels about the same as the one on my old Am Standard as I recall.