Coming Soon [to guitar manufacturing]?

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    I wouldnt mind Plastic Bodys that mimicked wood feel/density and with a 3d printed wood neck to further offset wood use.


    Also would make the guitars more affordable and consistent in quality.
     
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    I'm working on a design for a 3-D printer that prints 3D printers.
     
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    I wonder what they use for a binder and how heavy the end product is. If its like MDF, can you imagine how heavy your new Les Paul would be?
     
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    Not sure about the binder or weight, but 3D printing allows for all sorts of neat construction techniques - like chambering.
     
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    What I didn't see coming was this 'printed' wood actually has a grain. That implies a potential for being able to manipulate other characteristics associated with grain, such as tensile strength, that you don't find in MDF and HDF (or that flaxwood stuff, which is great for guitar necks with on-board vibrato :sneaky:). It could be extremely viable in woodwind manufacture, where scarcity of ebony is a major problem, and plastic is increasingly the substitute.

    Even if they never make one satisfactory guitar from it, this technology could be a significant building block in the more efficient use of natural resources, which elevates its significance from 'interesting coffee table manufacturing technique' to one of the potential planet savers.
     
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    I don’t think they build necks from Flaxwood… just the bodies.
     
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    I can hear tonewood people's heads exploding.
     
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    I was at a trade show 10-something years ago, and there was a Scandinavian company with some samples. One of the potential buyers sat playing it, and was using the neck for pitch bends in a way that wouldn't happen with wood. It was these guys, I believe: https://www.flaxwood.com

    No doubt neck stability is something the company has addressed, but without the ability to align the fibres, it's going to have all the tensile strength of MDF without considerable reinforcement. According to the FAQs on their site https://www.flaxwood.com/support/faq/, the necks and bodies are injection moulded, which is a process that wouldn't give any control over grain AFAIK.

    I love this claim though: "Flaxwood is an innovative new tone material that is created by breaking the grain structure of natural wood and injection-molding it into shape together with an acoustically sensitive binding agent." The company mentions a "resonating back plate", which is apparently some sort of tone enhancer, so it looks as if they've been working on that aspect of the design too.

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    With all that "binding agent" I would expect if to have density at least as great as MDF. That would make for a heavy guitar unless the body dimensions were reduced.
     
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    Tell them it is wood dust from extinct tone woods.
     
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    Well with the 3D printing and how flexible wood is as a material for that use a chambered porous/sponge/web-like structure can easily be made within the body to make a guitar body that offers less weight but still have a rather high structural integrity.
     
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    Yes, it's really too soon to dismiss products that haven't even been made yet, and there's clearly enormous potentially for radically different design approaches. Not so long ago, you'd have been laughed out of the suggesting that top luthiers were using composite tops on Classical guitars, but that's exactly what's happened.

    https://www.classicguitar.com/the-origin-and-development-of-the-double-top-guitar/
     
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