Cutting neck screws shorter?

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  1. greezy strings

    greezy strings Strat-Talker

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    because of my location .. I have to sometimes McGyver things..

    I have a Warmoth Strat with contoured heel coming..

    I have 4 Callaham stainless steel neck screws 1 3/4

    I need to shorter @ 1 1/2

    Neck is a roasted maple Warmoth pre drilled.

    Can I use my sawzall and cut the 2 screws down to the sizes I need?

    Any problems there?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Tsjackson

    Tsjackson Strat-O-Master

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    I’m sure you can and it would perhaps be fine, why not order some correct size screws? Or some of the inserts and machine screws?
     
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    greezy strings Strat-Talker

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    I like the idea of inserts but don't want to do it without having a drill press..

    I just ordered some 13/8 .. 11/2 screws .. chrome.. I wanted to use the stainless steel if possible.. I have some fender neck screws and they feel cheap to me.

    I was just looking into my options and wanted to know if it was ok to cut them down... wax them and screw them in without their points.
     
  4. Tsjackson

    Tsjackson Strat-O-Master

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    Again I’m sure it would be fine, you may have to tidy up the cut end with a tiny file. De bur it.
    You will definitely be able to order stainless steel screws the correct length, diameter and head from the internet. The only problem usually being if they aren’t from a guitar place it’s unlikely you’ll be able to order less than 50 haha.

    Ive not done much of a look but this is the first thing that comes up googling 8 x 1 1/2” stainless steel screws.
    Only difference is they’re pozi drive not Phillips.
    Double check that’s the right size but for a couple of quid in an expensive neck I’d be tempted to order some.
     
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  5. AngelDeVille

    AngelDeVille Senior Stratmaster

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    I put together a bass with those countersunk heebeejeebers, and cut them down to size with a belt sander.

    had to cut down the screw from the staplock too.


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  6. nadzab

    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    The main concern I'd have is that I'd want the threads in the neck to be cut once and once only (the holes on the body should be just big enough for the screws to slide through freely without threading in). If you cut down the screws and don't dress the cut ends really well, you could chew up the holes in the neck a bit, and any subsequent removal/reinstall could cause further damage.

    That said, I tend to be a bit of a perfectionist when putting things together, so it's entirely possible that you could just cut the screws down, clean up the ends as much as reasonably possible, and everything would be perfectly fine.

    As a side note, I wouldn't have any qualms about using the Fender screws, either...think of the countless guitars out there in the world today that have those exact screws installed without any issues.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Remember only to chop the pointy end off...
     
  8. lammie200

    lammie200 Senior Stratmaster

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    I suggest against inserts. I tried them once and besides being fussy to make work with such little material left at the edges of the neck heel, they changed the feel of the guitar to the point where it didn't feel Fender-ish anymore. A bit too much weight in the wrong place IMHO. Also, if you have a Dremel with a cutoff wheel you could cut down the SS screws that you have and tidy up the point to make them work. A sawzall will be difficult to control IMHO.
     
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    fattboyzz Senior Stratmaster

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    Agreed !

    Beltsander works great ! ;)

    I've done quite a few . Takes a bout a minute to get there and chamfer the end .
     
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  10. simoncroft

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    Or a bench grinder.

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  11. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    Good luck holding a screw while cutting it . . .

    and what is the end of that screw gonna look like after that?

    Go to 'Plan B'.
     
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    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Silver Member

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    If you screw each one in turn though a piece of wood narrow enough for the end to come through the other side, you've got yourself a damage-free clamping system. :)
     
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    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    Nice!
     
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    greezy strings Strat-Talker

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    You're funny
     
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    That's a great i
    great idea
     
  16. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Silver Member

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    Just a few general observations:

    a) anything that can be made can also be repaired or modified by someone else
    b) screw threads can be traced back to about 400 BC https://www.boltscience.com/pages/screw2.htm
    c) you can cut nuts and bolts yourself by hand using Taps (for nuts) and Dies (for bolts)
    d) a screw is basically a bolt with a taper designed to help it to cut and lock into a softer material (eg wood)

    So, it's worth taking some care over the job, but nothing that requires any more than simple tools. :thumb::thumb::thumb: