Delay - How to?

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  1. Namelyguitar

    Namelyguitar Most Honored Senior Member Silver Member

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    Been learning basics of delay pedals. Any how to suggestions- considering the myriad if possible settings?

    How do you like to set delay?
     
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    You just mess with it. Delay time...repeats...mix.

    For great Albert Lee style playing harmony with yourself, set it to come back a beat and a half for this kind of thing.



     
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  3. Stark

    Stark Still an idiot

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    I know, this is just five years younger than old me, but I straight up stole the repeat delay from the outro on this, back in, like, 1989 give or take a couple years....

     
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    Less is more. You will be tempted to turn the Repeat, (or Feedback) control up to where there are more than a couple repeats. Resist this temptation. Start with one repeat. Figure out very short slapback echos. "Short" means the delay sound comes quickly after the original note picked. That'll probably be where the knob is turned to the left. You can easily become obsessed with Tap Tempo, where the delays are in sync with the background music. Somehow guitar players got along without Tap Tempo for 50 or 60 years. It's not necessary and now you sound like a robot.
     
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    Ash-Man Senior Stratmaster

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    I like your style Stark, great album AWESOME artist
     
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  6. sam_in_cali

    sam_in_cali Scream for me Strat-Talk! Silver Member

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    Depends what sounds good to you. I like just a couple of repeats at about 600 ms. Works well for 80's hard rock rhythm and lead stuff anyway.
     
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    I set my goals and then mess with the knobs. Usually if I know what I’m looking for I can get there, also because the settings are all out there in the internet: repeats/feedback, level, milliseconds.

    The uses I’ve found are (in order of usefulness to me):
    - delay for “big leads” à la Gilmour (tip: delay time must be set to the max of what a Binson Echorec could do). That’s how my delay is set by default.
    - slapback (I found out interesting information on Ray Butt's EchoSonics and went with that)
    - “Special effect” delay … Run like hell, dotted eights…
    - Doubling (kind of cool, but not in my genres of music).
     
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    My favorite thing to do with a delay pedal (especially at the end of a song) is to make it self oscillate, and then turn the delay time knob to raise and lower the pitch.

    It's especially cool to do on stage, for the last song of the night or whatever.

    Down on both knees, one hand raised in the air, the other turning the delay knob.

    Your bandmates looking on in horror, the audience looking on in shock and amazement.

    It's about the coolest thing you can do with a delay pedal.
     
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    Will Lefeurve Most Honored Senior Member

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    I'm there.. goggle eyed.. :)
     
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    Miotch Senior Stratmaster

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    I know nothing about delay other than I sometimes like a touch of it, especially in one amp, if I'm split into two amps. I actually don't like it in both amps. I am in the "less is more" camp, unless I'm trying to do U2 New Years Day or something similar.
     
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    Delay is always in my stuff somewhere. Its very...supportive. As long as it just enhances without overpowering the main "dry" part...

    On dreamy stuff like Sleepwalk below...it's kind of essential in my view.



    On this cover of Drive...its a pure supportive thing.

     
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    tubejockey Strat-Talker

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    I like to use a subtle modulated delay instead of a chorus on some tunes.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Slapback (or two slapbacks) for me.

     
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  14. Namelyguitar

    Namelyguitar Most Honored Senior Member Silver Member

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    With slight slapback it’s a bit like enhancing notes with more definition, or thickening them. Yeah!

    [QUOTE="tubejockey, post: 3748647, member: 57641"k]I like to use a subtle modulated delay instead of a chorus on some tunes.[/QUOTE]

    Modulated is next on my list to try, thanks!

    @fezz parka -Great examples! :)
     
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  15. Boppy

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    There's no real shortcut for discovering which delay settings you like and use.
    Just mess around with the pedal (and pedal order), and you'll sort them out.
    I routinely use slapback, reverb, and echo at 300, 400 and 450 milliseconds. Sometimes I'll do manual effects like pitch-bends and controlled oscillation too.
    It's the same with any pedal, and all about trial and error discovery.
    Just have fun with it.
     
  16. Stratoman10

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    Just turn the knobs til you like i . Or your neighbors freak out
     
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