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Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by ThebiggestJerk, Apr 25, 2021.
Pretty much EVERYBODY thinks 7,8,9 sucks.
Epic disappointment all around.
They tried to satisfy the focus groups and forgot to write a good story. They tried to be a comic book movie when they had already defined their own genre. They let Rian Johnson be involved.
Mistakes were made....
the six fingered man (played by Christopher Guest) killed Inigo Montoya's father and then had to prepare to die....
I'm confused as to which is which any longer (And I don't care) , I like the original 3, and the newer ones are good, the side stories like Solo.
The inbetween ones, like the Jar Jar movie (that's what I call it) were terrible... the acting was so bad.
The spin off Mandalorian is pretty good.
The original trilogy was very dark until the popularity hit Lucas and he saw $$$$ in merchandising and a younger demographic.
Solo was supposed to die in Episode V (or not be revivable in VI)
Luke was supposed to turn to the dark side in Episode V or VI.
The Ewoks were originally not quite so cute... their original appearance was more appropriate for their obvious intent to cook "our heroes"
And I agree....
New Machete Order:
Rogue One, Episode-IV, Episode-V, Episode-II, Episode-III, Episode-VI.... and optional, VII, VIII, and IX.
Episode-I is completely irrelevant. It adds nothing to the plot, mother's situation is apparent in Ep-II, as cool as Darth Maul is, he was killed too quickly (and I don't consider anything in Clone Wars relevant), Ep-I introduced "midichlorians" which goes against the presentation of The Force being something anyone can learn to use. Eliminating it from Machete Order removes nothing from the series.
So you saw 4 and 5.
I liked the original 3 (ep. 4, 5, 6) but lost interest in the rest. They started to seem a lot more like long commercials to keep the franchise going than adding anything substantive to the story.
Fun and cool. Far from original as far as the core story lines go.
Does anyone think they are good?
An interesting look into the editing of Star Wars (the good one):
All stories of that type follow the hero's journey, it's the presentation we remember. Like Avatar.
I'm sorry . . . somebody doesn't like Princess Bride? That's like one of the most perfect movies.
Goes way back... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_film
Reminds me of my film history classes!
Jean Michelle Jarre profile photo? Good taste!
Word on the street was that Lucas got jealous when Titanic started breaking his box office records.
Seems a little far fetched to me. Something I've noticed as a grown-up is that these things have a way of resurfacing just in time for the now-parents to relive it all with their own kids. They even tried it with Care Bears.
I hadn't heard of that rumor. I remember thinking early on when first seeing the "Episode IV" intro scrolling by ,wait, what happen to episodes 1-3?? Then when hearing the prequels were finally to be made, there was A LOT of anticipation for them. I mean , I'm not a big sci-fi fan or anything and even I remember being excited about that so I can only imagine what it was like for the die-hard fans. But ya, that Phantom Menace was just so overhyped for what it was I don't know if it ever had much of chance of living up to the expectations.
If I could make a musical analogy though, to me the first 3 Star Wars movies (Ep. 4-5-6) are like the first three Def Leppard albums (On Through the Night, High n Dry, Pyromania). Raw but so damn good. Even to this day, those are the three that people will remember fondly.
And you guessed it, Star Wars Episodes 1-2-3 are just like the next three Def Lep albums (Hysteria, Adrenalize, Slang): technically they are still really good but are all waaaay over-polished and have lost the magic of what made them special.