Does this nut seem too tall?

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  1. Lonn

    Lonn Mod Admin Staff Member

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    It fits beautifully but it just seems really tall. I haven’t glued it in yet and it may be the color differentiation between the toasty wood and the light color of the the nut Playing mind games with me but it just seems tall.

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  2. Lonn

    Lonn Mod Admin Staff Member

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    My Harley Benton nut seems to be about the same height and it’s actually got fairly low action. Also, the slots all seem to be identical.

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  3. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985

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    The only way you’re gonna know for sure is to put strings on it Before you glue it in. If it’s too tall you can just loosen the strings, slide it out, and file it down some.
     
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    Depends on the height of the first fret.

    Yeah...it looks too tall.
     
  5. Lonn

    Lonn Mod Admin Staff Member

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    Yes I’m not doing anything until I get it strung up and see how it plays. It’s going to be a pain to file down though because the bottom of the nut is curved and the nut slot itself is curved. Just have to take it slow and easy.
     
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    string it up measure the first fret clearance under string tension, adjust nut height accordingly (file/sand). lather, rinse, repeat.
     
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    I shape the top of the nut. Never from the bottom.
     
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    JB74 Senior Stratmaster

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    If you **** it up, rough sand the bottom of the nut, sticky tape it down on one of the long sides, and place some baking soda on the bottom edge where you sanded, to build up the base again... then drip superglue on the baking soda. it will give you hard replacement material to re-sand if you get it wrong.
     
  9. ghostwolf

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    Fezz is right; especially with a curved bottom on the nut. You have nut slotting files, right? One at a time, file a little bit, restring, check, etc. Slots that are too deep may dampen vibration of the strong, and thereby cause poor tone, really slots only need to be 1/2 the depth of the string's thickness.
    Be patient, it's worth doing right if ya need to do it.
     
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    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985

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    Yes, file it from the top, not the bottom.
     
  11. Lonn

    Lonn Mod Admin Staff Member

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    Honestly I’m more concerned about the nut slots. Every one of them looks identical and I don’t have any nut files.
     
  12. fezz parka

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    Welding tip cleaner at Home Depot.

    I string up the two E's. Easy to flop off the side and file, then test them out under tension. Then the A & B, then the D &G.

    GW ( where you been man?) has it right. Especially on the wound strings. Half in, half out.
     
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    Lonn Mod Admin Staff Member

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    Izzat right? I’ll check that out. Edited….

    12 piece set under $5. Major thanks for the tip.

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    yep thems the ones.
    get a couple sets
     
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    That's it Lonn.

    Go easy with the ones that work for the plain strings. It's easy to bend them, and not get a good slot with the break at the fretboard side of the nut.
     
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    Stratoskater Fuzz Meister General

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    I agree with Fezz and GW for sure. Also the nut slots on the Harley Benton is way too deep.
     
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    Super glue the thin ones to the edge of a popsicle stick....
     
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    Hard to say about height, as has been shared, it depends upon the first fret.

    Watch it with the pipe cleaners (tip files). They can get away from you...(cut aggressively). My take is that for real nut files are easier to control, if only because they're longer, permitting smooth even pressure and control out the back side. But whatever one's comfort level...

    A "good" set of nut files will run ya about $80.00. 6 sized files. A good hand can learn to shape a slot for a larger string than the file, but that requires practice.

    Slow is your friend. So is youtube. Study before ya cut.
     
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    The HB is the best playing guitar I've ever owned. Zero fret buzz and low action.
     
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    It's the way the top of the nut is shaped. It's an asthetic thing as well as a feel thing.

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