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Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by johnnywizzo, Mar 24, 2019.
Totally agree. Personally, I would love either the Turqoise or Lucerne Aqua Firemist with a maple neck.
Yes, these are made in USA guitars. Why do you ask?
I ask because I don't see where it says "made in USA" on the guitar. I'm not doubting that they are, I just thought that it was unusual.
I think the reason why they dont is to be kinda faithful to the original 50's models as far as I know they didnt say made in the USA also
Yep it’s to be like the 50’s Strats they are modeled after. They also have the serial number on the neck plate just like the vintage ones. This is why EJ also did not put his signature on the headstock like other artist models.
68 Deluxe . . . is that a 2008 model?
I'm asking because one YouTube video mentioned that in 2008 they introduced a Rosewood EJ in red, and with red I don't mean CAR. Never seen one, but it would be my preference.
It was called Dakota red. They no longer come in that color. I know they made them through around 2013. Now the only come in tropical turquoise and Lucerne mist.
Not sure about Fender but I recall Martin stopped using "Made in USA" on their guitars a couple of years ago due to the wood content being mostly sourced from overseas (Rosewood, etc) and so they apparently did not fall within the new Made in USA guidelines. Not sure how that plays out for Fender with Rosewood and or Maple in the mix but it might be a reason.
"According to the Federal Trade Commission, "Made in USA" means that "all or virtually all" the product has been made in America. That is, all significant parts, processing and labor that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. Products should not contain any — or only negligible — foreign content."
The EJ Strat was modelled after Eric’s 57 Stratocaster. The 57 Stratocaster did not have a Made in USA decal on the headstock. From what I’ve read none of Leo Fender’s Fender guitars had a Made in USA anywhere on them. It wasn’t until some time later (maybe late CBS era) where they began stamping them with Made in USA. You won’t find Made in USA on the headstock of the AVRI models either.
holy smokes that's a beauty!!!!
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Probably have to ask how the law is defined, nevertheless Martin decided to err on the side of caution and stopped using the stamp. It's possible the wood is considered a part/material and if the wood is sourced from trees grown outside the USA it is considered a "foreign" material and not of USA origin.
Yeah, as I mentioned I wasn't sure how it would pan out for Fender, given the historical uses of the label with their guitars. I was just giving an example that in recent years (2015) another icon guitar maker (CF Martin) had stopped using the label due to law changes.
by California law? or by US law?
I have no idea, I don't live there, I just know Martin changed to potentially avoid being sued so I wondered whether companies like Fender had also considered the same and maybe that's why the label was not used. I don't know.
You actually won't find Made in USA on any of the Fender's now. The Am Pro says Corona CA on the front (no made in) and has a US prefix for the serial number on the back. I believe that is due to the law @No457 Snowy is citing. Rather than risk an issue they like many other manufacturers decide to just remove the Made in USA part.
I had read where it was California law that prompted Martin to eliminate "made in USA".
I noticed the “Corona CA” on the Am Pro guitars. I didn’t realize all of them have changed to follow suit. I wonder how recent that change was. I would think the Made in USA was a valuable marketing tool so it must be a legal reason they changed it. That said, I don’t think it has anything to do with the EJ Strat. I don’t think the EJ Strat has ever sported a Made in USA decal and none of the MIA Vintage reissues I’ve seen have had a Made in USA decal either.
I’ve read that on the AVRI guitars it’s because those stickers didn’t exist until sometime more recent like the 80’s. I’ve also read that Eric Johnson was a stickler for detail which is why he didn’t sign the headstock and the serial number is on the neck plate. I haven’t seen it in any interviews or anything though so I can’t say if that’s just speculation on the Internet. My EJ is a 2012 and doesn’t have any marking to indicate that it’s Made in USA. I haven’t taken it apart so I don’t know what the insides might be stamped with. It’s one of the few guitars I’ve played where I feel no need to take it apart or change a single thing.
Yep, you are correct the EJ has not ever had the Made in USA on it. I too have read that he did not want his signature on it and wanted the serial number on the neck plate not the headstock.