Eventual interstellar travel. Bonus or bogus for humanity?

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  1. tery

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    They are already here .

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    it may not be conceit or selfishness rather it could be just the horrifying reality that, we’ll we are alone
    And that maybe we’re just a random accident, or that maybe we truly are in a programmed simulation, why would there be an infinite universe only to make it non explorable with a governing law that sets a speed limit ?
     
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    Alien: the humans just arrived

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    Space visitors may carry an unknown disease that will infect our world in only a few months .
     
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    “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” A. C. Clark

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    Even more relevant, innit?

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    And would not a colony of intelligent spiders on an isolated island not believe the same thing?

    We once thought that humans could not survive traveling faster than 60mph.
    We once thought that traveling faster than sound was impossible.
    Yet here we are with a permanent presence in space for the last 34 years, and at least one and unofficially two land-vehicles have traveled faster than sound.
     
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    Our bodies can’t handle the speeds even close to what it would take to travel to a distant inhabitable planet, in a lifetime or two.
    Not to mention being able to get to those speeds.

    I personally think we will go extinct on this planet, like the thousands of species before us. but if I’m wrong, that’s great.

    It took an international pissing contest to get a man on the moon, maybe someday humanity can come together and get people much farther than that.
     
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    We wouldn't necessarily need warp drive, but we would need a way to either preserve our bodies in stasis for years at a time or the capability to support multiple generations en route.
     
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    I think we will achieve interstellar. If one big asteroid hits, we will all gain velocity to do so. Too bad we won't be conscience to enjoy the ride.
     
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    We are essentially a blight, so why would we not spread past our current confines. We are locusts, devouring everything we can get our hands on. I don’t have a lot of faith in our ability or our motives for trying to leave earth.
     
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    I'm thinking our *dumb* will win out over *smart*. Yet another species to make carbon deposits and fossils in the earth surface.
     
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    Humans have overcome greater odds than the ones you think will destroy us. I think it’s easy to think negatively and not think about how we went from writing on cave walls to creating something that can take us into space. Think positive!
     
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    I just don't think carbon based life forms will every be able to withstand interstellar travel. Maybe robots. They have certainly been about 50% successful going to Mars. The moon is across the street and Mars is a few blocks away compared to even Proxima Centauri the closest star.
     
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    A long term lack of gravity (the "artificial gravity" hand wave from sci-fi is not a thing) would be a huge biological problem. The length of time involved would be epic, even at the highest plausible speeds to the nearest stars likely to have a hospitable planet, so the ship would probably have to be landed by an operator who was born on it - maybe generations after launch. And at the speeds involved, a small piece of space debris would rip through the hull with catastrophic results. Quick alteration of course? Nope. A huge amount of propulsion would be required to get to those speeds (and to decelerate upon arrival), given the enormous mass required to sustain any decent number of humans for the period of time involved. And the propulsion options are few, again given the mass issue (you need to push a lot of mass away to accelerate).

    Finally, it would seem that like time travel, if interstellar travel were possible, we would have seen evidence of someone or something using it. The idea that someone with interstellar travel capability would bother to hide from us (a species as stupid in their eyes as a mouse seems to us) is dubious. Granted, if they didn't want to be seen, the notion that we'd sniff them out is likewise hard to swallow. I could see time travelers wanting to hide, but a species that is just as likely as we are to be in effect colonizing invaders hiding their unconscionable power from us? Doubt it.

    So I say no. This is where humanity thrives or vanishes.
     
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