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Example of "Tone is in the hands"

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  1. Johnny Danger

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    Watch his right hand on the acoustic jam starting around 1:10



    No strat, no TS, No fender amp modded and cranked to X% bass, and no overwound pickups. Still sounds like SRV.

    Feel free to post more examples of how tone is in the hands.
     
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    Wish I had a video of Robben Ford playing my 2013 SG Standard. That would remove all doubt.
     
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    Great clip! Sounds exactly like SRV on an acoustic. Does not sound like SRV through his electric rig. What exactly should it prove/disprove?
     
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    1) I am not presenting "proof" of anything.

    2) Why on earth would anyone on acoustic sound like themselves on electric?
     
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    Here’s much better proof that good tone is in the hands




    (I didn’t see me in here but ...)
     
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    Stevie still sounds like Stevie
     
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    I think it's
    The Hat
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    45,000 hrs playin/practicing...
     
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    Wow, yeah, just wow. There’s just something more powerful about watching, and listening to him play unplugged.

    Excuse me for a moment, while I go set fire to my guitars...
     
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    Ok, maybe I just didn't understand your intention behind your thread topic. Tone is in the hands. Clip of SRV playing on an acoustic. No big amp, no TS etc. Sounds like Stevie (unplugged), because he IS Stevie. Why on earth wouldn't it sound like Stevie?

    Again, it's a cool clip. Let me give an example to your call "Post clips where tone is in the hands", maybe we're on the same page anyway. I'll use this video where Tomo talks about his love for the Stratocaster. There he explains how to get a fat and round tone vs a thin tone depending on where you pick on the guitar. Of course it is still gear-related to some extent, but the tone shaping is done with the hands.

     
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    guitarchaeologist Artist Formerly Known as π Strat-Talk Supporter

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    IMO, we are using the wrong nomenclature, conflating and oversimplifying tone and ? into one word

    Tone is a combination of guitar & amp.
    Something else, maybe, "style" is in the hands. Perhaps another word might be more appropriate.
    Discuss.
     
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    OMG!
     
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    Difference in technique changes sound, which is the primary component of tone.
     
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    Yeah, I get what you're saying. It just seems to me that we are trying to pack too much into a single word that is already rather abstract and difficult to define.
     
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    Yep. And I've always thought that tone was from the gear/equipment and playing style. I all to often hear that tone is "in the fingers" like its some magical force within the flesh or some nonsense.
     
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    ' Jimi ' playing ' here my train a coming ', on a 12 string, proved he could play without 12 Marshall stacks and an electric guitar.
    I can't play acoustic without the string ' screeching ', when moving frets. I just play electric these days.
     
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    I always like watching him. He comes across as very friendly, has good information, and says stuff that I find hilarious. "So this guitar won't break... that's great."

    Edit: The last 2 minutes have some wisdom: "Don't compare, because if you compare you always feel you don't have something. Just appreciate what you have." That really applies to us. A lot of us spend time comparing the guitars and equipment we have to what others have, making us want more instead of being happy.
     
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    Always remember, that the tone is really in the ears of the beholder. What you think is lovely, I might consider to be the sound of a tom cat having his whatsits squeezed...
     
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    It also occurs to me that we talk about the tone of the guitar; the tone of the pickups; and the tone of the amp,and other components as well.
    Then we say things like, "I like that cat's tone". Maybe what we like, is that guy's sound.
    On the other hand, I suppose we do the same thing with food when we talk about the flavor of a dish or its individual components.
    Seems like there should be a more precise way to differentiate these aspects of the end products.

    EDIT: I just checked Webster's for a definition of tone...
    musical sound with respect to timbre and manner of expression
    So it seems that, by definition, we are using the word correctly.
     
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    Define beauty. :D
     
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