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Example of "Tone is in the hands"

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by Johnny Danger, May 18, 2020.

  1. archetype

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    Thanks. I didn't know the story about how that was recorded.
     
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    You put the right hand in
    You pull the right hand out
    You put the right hand in
    and you shake it all about
    you do the hokey pokey
    and you turn yourself around
    that’s what its all about
     
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    Fully agree here, maybe I'm just too tired of this topic so I become too grumpy. And my last post surely wasn't a stab at you @Johnny Danger , I think through our exchange we found out we are on the same page. It was more a reaction to some comments in between, but let's just leave it as is :)
     
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    I think it is the same tone. It's a different "sound" or "timbre" playing through his electric rig. His tone is his tone, through acoustic or electric
     
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    I guess this is the reason why there is so much debate around this topic. In the context you describe, I agree. However the way I think of tone is more in the vein of @guitarchaeologist's description (not saying that one is right or wrong):

    To add something, I'd say there is a base tone (or sound maybe) from the guitar / amp / rig, and you can shape it to some degree with your hands.

    A myriad of possibilities...
     
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    Some degree? Without the player...the guitar/amp/rig makes no music. All of the music these tools make...is shaped by the hands, ears, and brain of the player. The player makes the sound.:)

    The painter's brush.
    The sculptor's chisel.
    The musician's instrument.

    They all do nothing without the hands of the artist.
     
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    Let's get away from the guitar.

    Dexter Gordon:



    Sonny Rollins.



    The "Tone"...is different. :D
     
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    My buddy, bandmate, songwriting partner’s main guitar is a Costa Mesa Strat copy that is plywood with a Mexican Fender neck and a Pearly Gates neck pickup in the bridge position. He has a tight, percussive and distinct rhythm sound. He can pick any guitar and amp and it’s always sounds the same.
     
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    I think the point is that you don't have to know who is it..you can tell from the tone alone.
     
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    Yes to some degree only. Of course there is no music without the player. A player has the same chops and style regardless of the rig. There is always the base sound (or tone, pick what you want) from the rig however. To give you an extreme example, you can't obtain Mesa Dual Rec distorted tone from a vintage Fender, regardless what kind of hands or chops you have.

    If, as a painter, you only have a super thin brush, you cannot draw thick thick lines. Yes you can combine multiple lines, but different brushes allow for different strokes. Also what kind of canvas you use, has an influence on the picture. That's not something an artist can magically change. The end result will always be distinctive for the painter, there is no doubt about that. That's also true for a musician/guitar player. Stevie sounds like Stevie, there was never an argument about that!
     
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    Guess this was inevitable.

    Let Zod sort it out.

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    Trying to figure out if the guy punching the blue guitar was on acid or having a psychotic break. Each of these was painful in its own way. The guy doing the power chords and tapping was the most painful as he’s put time into it.... but had no time, since of key or.... music. Who knows, maybe I was like that a short while into playing.
     
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