Expensive guitar+cheap amp, or cheap guitar+expensive amp?

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Mizu, Nov 10, 2021.

  1. Ongo Gablogian

    Ongo Gablogian Strat-Talker

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    IMO the red stripe Peavey bandit is THE best solid-state amp ever made. I do not think you will get a better solid-state amp(which it looks like that's all you are interested in). Under most circumstances, I would say expensive amp cheap guitar. But in this case, I would say stick with the Signature strat + Red stripe peavy bandit hands down! That's a very cool rig! And your right the drive on the bandit is not great, but, that's what pedals are for. I would suggest trying to get your hands on a tube-driven OD(like the ones from Kingsley). Something like that into the bandit will blow your nips off.
     
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  2. archetype

    archetype Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    This, right here. Get an inexpensive guitar, give it a proper setup, then spend most of your money on the best amp you can find that does what you want. Eg: a $200 guitar with a $50 setup should sound mighty good through the right $2,500 amp. A Squier Affinity and a Fender 5F4 Super clone should absolutely kill with rock, jazz, blues, etc.
     
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  3. 3bolt79

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    I have both expensive (10K) and inexpensive ($299.00) guitars. I am playing the cheap ones into a orange Crush 35RT. 300 dollars with optional foot switch.

    This is the best SS amp that I’ve ever had. It has a ten inch speaker. It sounds pretty much like a tube amp, has an effects loop, and reverb. If you want more power they make a 1x12 combo in the Crush line that is around 500 bucks new. That one you could gig with. No built in effects. No software to upgrade.

    I also have a couple of Mesa/Boogies. You can pick up a used F30 1x12 combo for about 500 bucks used. Mine was $550.00 with new tubes in mint condition. It’s 30 watts. Cleans on that amp are very Fender like. Ant the distortion is really nice.

    I also have Mark V 25 head with 1x12 cab. I bought them new together and it was just a few pennies shy of 2K. I can play my grand kids Mikros through it, and it sounds great

    Good luck and keep us posted. Do an NGD/NAD post when you get your guitar and amp.
     
  4. albala

    albala Dr. Stratster

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    save up

    spend $800-$1000 a used MIA

    spend $1000-$1500 on a tube amp


    you'll have a winning combination for the rest of your life
     
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  5. 3bolt79

    3bolt79 Dr. Stratster

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    Scratch what I said about the F30. Prices have almost doubled. I got a great deal at 550. But damn, There is a new one that is going for almost 2K. They weren’t even that expensive when bUYING NEW JUST A FEW YEARS AGO
     
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  6. fezz parka

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    A good player will make anything sound good.

    That being said...get a great amp.
     
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  7. dirocyn

    dirocyn Most Honored Senior Member

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    The worst thing in your signal chain will hold you back. A truly bad guitar will sound bad through any amp. A truly bad amp will sound bad with any guitar. And a truly bad player will sound bad no matter what. Until they learn.

    None of the gear that's been discussed so far is truly bad. The Peavy is a nice clean ss amp. So it's really a matter of taste and preference.

    I suggest you test drive a Supro Delta King.
     
  8. Impulsive guppy

    Impulsive guppy Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    I would say the weak link is the Zoom pedal.
    Not that Zoom is bad, but you might want to add some other effects.
     
  9. Swamp_Thang

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    I'd get a cheap tube amp like a Blackstar HT5. A Player Stratocaster is a perfectly acceptable guitar.
     
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  10. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    These days cheap works out just fine.
     
  11. Will Lefeurve

    Will Lefeurve Most Honored Senior Member

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    Yeah.. for us more mature guys, cheap is the new expensive. If the youngsters had experience of the gear we started off with they'd weep openly.. it was crap with knobs on.. :D
     
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  12. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Until they fell off if you tried to turn them.

    The silly thing is that cheap stuff then cost the same as the cheap stuff does now, but the £100 guitar and £100 amp you buy today actually work and will continue to work...
     
  13. Will Lefeurve

    Will Lefeurve Most Honored Senior Member

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    Exactly this.. ^^^^^ the quality of 'cheap' guitars today is of no comparison to cheap stuff back in the day. You and I who both own CV 50s Tele's can testify to that for sure..
     
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  14. jrbirdman

    jrbirdman Senior Stratmaster Platinum Supporting Member Silver Member

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    Get what ever is going to make you want to play more.
     
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  15. systolsys

    systolsys Strat-O-Master

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    Depends on whether you are a musician or a dentist.
     
  16. Wrighty

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    From my (relatively limited) experience, assuming a guitar plays well, you can change the noise it makes quite cheaply and easily with a pickup swap. If you can’t get what you need from an amplifier, there ain’t no quick fix. My advice would therefore be to go for a guitar that is of reasonable quality, in so much as you want to pick it up and play it, and stick for the time being with the bandit. They are a good all round amp. Then, as you crave a particular tonal pallet, which you will, pop back on here. There will be those that will advise how to get in the ball park re pickups. After that, you can seek, and get, plenty of options for an amp, if, that is, you need to change at all.

    But, pleeeease, take it slow, investigating the possibilities of every piece of kit you buy before you buy the next. It’s so easy to change out things to the point where you don’t know exactly which change made which difference!
     
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  17. Wrighty

    Wrighty Dr. Stratster

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    Doesn’t that screw up the switches? Bread bins are cheap!
     
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  18. Wrighty

    Wrighty Dr. Stratster

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    I had one for years and, yes, bang for buck or real hard cash, it was.
     
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  19. slowesthand

    slowesthand Senior Stratmaster

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    I don't know is a Bandit is "considered" cheap but they do sell cheap. I would be willing to bet more gigs have been played through a Bandit than all of the "boutique" amps combined.
     
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  20. Wrighty

    Wrighty Dr. Stratster

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    ‘blow your nips off’………..brilliant!
     
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