Fading English Words?

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  1. Nadnitram

    Nadnitram Most Honored Senior Member

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    For the reliced vs relicked vs relic'd crowd:
    That word is [MEN - YOOZ], not (MEEN - us].​
     
  2. longboard blues

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    hmmm... that's partially true. those two examples are, I'd say , vanishingly rare - i've seldom heard "an hospital", and *never* heard "an horse" - hotel is the common (and divisive!) example.

    It's also likely to come from the fact that English derives in part from France .


    Now stop that.....
     
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    anyone pronouncing it "MEENus" will be first against the wall come the revolution.
     
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    Quockerwodger.

    Yeah don't hear that one too much anymore.
     
  5. JB74

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    Which was exactly my point, but perhaps it was lost in translation.

    Respect for language. Also means we do not forget the origin of such, because if you fail to maintain this connection, then these little things called knowledge and wisdom are lost in the annals of time.

    Unfortunately the 'few hundred years' you quote aren't exactly a few. Beowulf circa C6th. Shakespeare first published in 1598.

    Remembering also that Latin is officially a 'dead' language - but all biological nomenclature still uses it as the reference.

    I wonder how many schools actually inform students of the existence of latin, much less study it before a university degree requires 2 semesters of study in order to qualify for applicable degrees.

    Interesting, but incomplete discussion deserving of it's own thread. Likely to be pointless here.

    Thankyou for requiring me to extrapolate on my previous vaguery.
     
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    George Harrison had a selfie stick? He was way ahead of his time! :D
     
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    We don't. ;)

    What I will say is Cockney types who usually drop their aitches with Horse becoming 'orse etc will often precede it with "an" as it is much easier to say "an 'orse" than "a 'orse".
     
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    Lately, any word with more tha 3 syllables
     
  10. nickmsmith

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    It’s weird how words like hip, groovy, cats (as in people) far out, etc. we’re erased from the vocabulary of people after the 70s.

    I’m now waiting for yeet, lit, and some other words to do the same. My 5 year old learned to do “the dab” from a YouTube video. I wish that move would also go away, along with the floss dance and other fortnite dances.

    Whoops, my old man is showing.
     
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    Indubitably
     
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    The "H" is optional in Yorkshire, but we gerron t'orse to gurra t'ospital...
     
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    Yeet isn't any worse than chuck or "eighty-six." Get with the mod times, hepcat. 23 skiddoo, don't be a square.
     
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    Even though the story itself is certainly much older, the Beowulf manuscript we have dates to the late 10th or early 11th Century. Either way, British Library agrees that Old English continued to be written and spoken until 1150 CE. Chaucer wrote in Middle English in the 1300's; Shakespeare was using Modern English by 1600. My aim here is to point out that the shifts from Old English to Middle English and from Middle English to Modern English each occurred rapidly, over just a few hundred years. Each of those

    I think we can agree that communication is the goal, and language is one of the tools we use to accomplish that goal. Having an agreed-upon set of rules makes the communication more efficient. Sometimes those rules need to be updated.
     
  15. JB74

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    Well, we moved on from Heiroglyphics - but it too is lost in translation and now people think it was
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