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Fat fingers on a Squier Stratocater

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  1. FrankHgh

    FrankHgh New Member!

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    I have difficulty making F cord on my guitar, one option is to learn a different way to make the F cord or change the Neck (if possible) or sell/trade it away.
    I am an older beginner, Also learning Bass (washburn)
    Any ideas greatly appreciated.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Every beginner has trouble making the F chord at first. Practice. :)
     
  3. Bob the builder

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    Why do you think they call it the F chord.
    Just keep at it
     
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  4. Thunderhopkins8

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    Make sure your action isn’t high. That could be causing difficulties, as well. Go to your music store and ask them if it’s high, and if they can lower it. If it isn’t, just keep practicing. Practice is the best instructor of all.
     
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  5. FrankHgh

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    Sure do need more practice time,
    while
     
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  6. BluesForDan

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    A - give yourself a little time. How are the other chords treating you? B - any other musical training that would allow you to transpose the song's key to one without an F chord, for instance instead of playing in C (C F and G most common for that key) change it to A (A D E). If not and that is totally Greek to you, don't sweat it.

    One thing that took me a long time to realize was you don't need to play all 6 strings all the time. Barre chord F in the first position is a tough chord for beginners, I won't lie. I would tell a beginner to try playing parts of the chords, any combination of three adjacent strings that you can get to sound cleanly. As you build up finger strength and then calluses and muscle memory, you'll be able to get any string sounding cleanly.
     
  7. Thunderhopkins8

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    Another thing that may help is light gauge strings. 8’s is what I play now.
     
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  8. Cerb

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    Practice barring an F minor triad, barre the first fret of the e, b and g strings, that's an inverted Fm. Then add a finger (ring most likely) on the 3rd fret of the D string, that's an F, still Fm but now with F in the root. Add your middle finger to the second fret of the g string, that's an A, you've now got a perfectly acceptable F major chord. You can put your thumb over the top of the neck and use it to fret the F on the low E string if you like.

    You've now learned to barre half of all the strings, just extend the barre string by string until you get it but keep in mind that your index finger only needs to apply pressure to the strings that you other fingers aren't fretting.

    And one more tip. Twist your hand a bit towards the head stock so that you don't barre with the soft part of your finger but rather the side of it.

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  9. misterwogan

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    Success is the product of effort and time. In the meantime, there are other places on the board where you can play F besides the first position.
     
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    While it is true you will eventually get it, i must ask if it’s an Affinity Squier. They have the smallest necks and us large handed folks do better with different models sometimes. That said, I can now play an Affinity if necessary so practice will get you there.
     
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    Have your Squier set up by a pro. If the action at the nut to the first fret is too high, it can make depressing the strings at the first fret difficult. Once the nut slots are lowered and the rest of the guitar has been set up, playing will be easier. Also, you may want to try light strings like 9-42 or 8-38. Whatever you decide, once you have the guitar set up with strings you like, stick with that brand and gauge of strings.
     
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    You think you have problems? Try being a giant...

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  13. ChrisD

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    That neck :eek::eek:
     
  14. Thrup'ny Bit

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    He's just showing off again. :D
     
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    My barre chord skillz? :D
     
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    It almost looks edible lol.
     
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    Cerb Anti conformist reformist Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I haven't even licked it! Why? What did you hear? :confused:
     
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    I've been playing for 3 years, and I still don't like F, although I can usually manage if it doesn't come along too often in a song. I recently had to play Sweet Home Chicago in F, which wasn't very nice. I might start taking a capo to jam nights in case I have to do it again!
     
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    Find a store or a buddy with a Fender Tele or Epiphone LP and check if the neck carve on yours is the problem.

    I found I had to stop getting Squiers to play because, while the width and depth of the neck are within half a mm of the Fenders, they start cutting the carve from the front edge of the fretboard back removing a lot of material resulting in a skinny circumference. The other models leave the fretboard square on the edge and start carving behind the glue line. It's the worst on the Squier Strats, and some of the Squier Teles are also carved that way and some not, with poor identifying by model and factory and year. More of the Indonesian models will be skinny carved like that than the older China models (but otherwise MII has better fretwork).

    It took buying a non-Fender Strat-Like-Object for me to figure out why the Squier Strat I started with was so much easier to play. The non-Fender did a much better job copying MIM/MIA Fender neck carve than Squier...

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  20. BluesForDan

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    I think your fingers are getting heat-treated by that neck. Yowza, that flame:eek:
     
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