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Favorite Noiseless Pickup Brand/Model?

Discussion in 'Pickup Forum' started by diogoguitar, Mar 15, 2020.

Favorite brand/model?

  1. Dimarzio Area

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    14.0%
  2. Seymour Duncan Stacks

    9 vote(s)
    20.9%
  3. Kinman (are they still alive?)

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  4. Fender Noiseless

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  5. Lindy Fralin split poles ($300, is it worth it?)

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  6. Bill Lawrence aka Wylde pickups (which one?)

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  7. Mojo Tone 58 set

    6 vote(s)
    14.0%
  1. diogoguitar

    diogoguitar Senior Stratmaster

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    So, I've used the Gen 4 Fender Noiseless on my strat... I like it for the most part, except for the fact that the neck pickup died on me, three times (link). And now I think it died for good.

    The only thing is, I wish the Gen 4 pickups were like 10-20% softer in output. They all read 10k or more. Here is what I considered as a replacement for all 3 pickups:

    Bill Lawrence/Wylde:
    I owned a Bill Lawrence L200 set for Tele and wasn't all that impressed with its tone. Wasn't bad and definitely better than the stock pickups, but just lacked chime, but maybe they have a better strat set.

    Kinman
    : After watching countless YouTube demo videos, I was ready to purchase either the Traditional MK-4 from Kinman or the E69 set (link to demo). However, it seems like the page is down.

    Now, in absence of Kinman which one is a good alternative in your opinion?

    I don't want a super vintage tone (like what you would find in a 1954 strat), but not something too hot like the 2008-2011 American Standard single coil pickups either... just something in the middle.

    What are your suggestions?
     

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  2. Thunderhopkins8

    Thunderhopkins8 Senior Stratmaster

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    Dimarzio’s Virtual Vintage Heavy Blues 2
     
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  3. Antstrat

    Antstrat Senior Stratmaster

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    Gen 3 Fender noiseless designed by Bill Lawrence, DiMarzio Area series and Fender Hot Noiseless.
     
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  4. mikej89

    mikej89 Senior Stratmaster

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    I haven't heard a ton but I think the N3 Fender's are quite good as far as capturing a classic single coil tone.
     
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  5. Swampash

    Swampash Senior Stratmaster

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    Kinman are the best I’ve ever played.

    I love Bill Turner’s Fender Hot Noiseless - the ones in the Jeff Beck Strat.

    I like the crystal clear purity of the EMG SAs.
     
  6. DeMelo

    DeMelo Senior Stratmaster

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    I definitely don’t mean to be a jerk, and I have no will to cause trouble.

    But.

    I’m yet to know a real good noiseless pup. Noise is part of the gig and when you’re loud enough, it actually helps the atmosphere...

    Just saying.
     
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  7. tinkertoy

    tinkertoy Strat-Talk Member

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    Of your list I've tried the fender noiseless. Hated them.

    I've tried hot noiseless too. I really like these.

    Lace sensors are cool for something different. I used the hot gold for a while.

    I now use lace holy grails. I love the bridge pickup. The other two are nice as well, but I wish I had a set of three bridge pickups.
    Less sparkle, better gain as a result.
     
  8. Antstrat

    Antstrat Senior Stratmaster

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    there are 4 generations of fender noiseless, which one(s) did you hate ?
     
  9. fezz parka

    fezz parka Duke of Dilligaf Strat-Talk Supporter

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    A PAF. ;)
     
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  10. guitarface

    guitarface Most Honored Senior Member

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    I don’t necessarily disagree but I don’t understand that last bit at all.
     
  11. Swampash

    Swampash Senior Stratmaster

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    this is John Mayer’s approach - he said RF noise is like breathing, you notice the absence more than the presence.
     
  12. DeMelo

    DeMelo Senior Stratmaster

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    Some hum and hiss is natural regarding single coils. It’s the nature of the beast.

    I saw a video of Joe Bonamassa on Instagram the other day, he was playing a vintage Strat he had just bought and someone asked what he did about 60 cycle hum. IIRC he replied something like “I turn the volume up”
     
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  13. Dreamdancer

    Dreamdancer Strat-O-Master

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    Kinmans(any set) and dimarzio areas.
    Living with a noisy guitar is no different than living with a leaky roof and pretend that you dont care......sure after a while you ll learn to tune it out and it might be even acceptable if the house is actually a cheap shed but if it a house you invested serious money in...its unacceptable..imagine if you called the contractor and he said "well thats the nature of this house....a bit of leaks or drips are acceptable as it retains the natural element of the old days"....he would be fired immediately....
     
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  14. Lonn

    Lonn Mod Admin Staff Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Lace Sensors but they're not on your list.
     
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  15. wrvond

    wrvond Senior Stratmaster

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    Lace sensors.
     
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  16. crazyrachey96

    crazyrachey96 Strat-O-Master

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    Bonamassa can say that... he's famous. I've noted just since I started playing gigs... which hasn't really been that long... a reduced tolerance on the part of the house and a lot of bandmates for things that go buzz. I just recently switched to noiseless myself. Dimarzio Area's with an Injector (the neck version oddly enough) in the bridge position. I'm quite happy with them. I've heard really good things about the Duncan classic stacks as well, and might put them in another guitar to try them out. I haven't heard the Kinmans or the Lawrence, but honestly I tend to be a little suspicious of boutique pickup companies. Dimarzio and Duncan are a quality product made with quality materials, and hand-winding does not confer fairy dust.

    Re: Lace Sensors... my BF has a guitar with those. They do a thing, and it's a good thing, but it's not a very Stratty sounding thing.

    I hate the modern Fender Noiseless. They sound more like a P90 than a Strat pickup.
     
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  17. Swampash

    Swampash Senior Stratmaster

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    That's because they're not noiseless, they're just.... well-designed single-coils
     
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  18. Seymour Duncan

    Seymour Duncan Senior Stratmaster

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    It's true, the Classic Stacks aren't just my favorite noiseless pickups, they are my favorite single coil-sounding pickups, period.
     
  19. Stonetone

    Stonetone Strat-O-Master

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    Everyone will have their Own Preference/Take On this, Personally I think they are basically all Similar in tone and sound wise, OFC they will have Some Sound Difference Like Mids highs and Lows more or less Output but all that can Be adjusted through amp Tone Control, PuP height effects Processing etc .. but thats My Thoughts ....
     
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  20. EC Strat-boy

    EC Strat-boy Senior Stratmaster

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    +1 for the Duncan Classic Stacks - they are awesome. Authentic vintage tones from the 50’s
     
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