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Fender Lead 1

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  1. gjohnson441496

    gjohnson441496 Strat-O-Master

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    The past 2 months I've been interested in purchasing a guitar with a single P90. The Les Paul junior was a consideration but I'm really hesitant about buying a guitar that doesn't allow intonation at the bridge. I've considered the Gary Clark Jr. SG since it has locking tuners and intonation at the bridge but after playing one I realized I prefer the tone of the LP Jr.

    Then I came upon the Fender Strat Lead 1. Played it, loved it, want one, and GC has one for $650. I'm sure I can talk em down as they are always willing to negotiate. I've never seen this guitar before. I asked the sales guy was it some kind of Frankenstein. It's everything I was looking for in every way AND it's a Fender Strat so I know it will stay in tune (I have a Gretsch that I love, but it goes out of tune after about 3 songs or so).

    Are any of you familiar with this guitar? Are there any players of this one on this forum? The only drawback as far as I can tell is the weight, but I play bass on a 70's P bass so, I can deal with a 9 pound Strat. I'm just curious about what ya'll think about this guitar.



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    I haven't seen one of those in many years. I had one in my teens, and from what I remember it was a very nice guitar. (Take that for whats its worth, I was young and inexperienced)

    That said, $650 is far too high an asking price.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I haven't seen one in many years either, hopefully it will be an equally long time before I see one again. Much too expensive for a mediocre guitar.
     
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    I used to own one (a 1981 model) but sold it in 2014 for $533 on eBay (there were of course fees taken off my profits)...

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    It was a solidly built guitar with a fat baseball bat neck and heavy ash body.

    The pickup was super hot but also fairly clear no matter how much distortion you threw at it. I seem to recall that it was designed by Seth lover.

    I'd say it's main downfall is that it looks like a cheap knockoff of a Fender!

    It's also somewhat limited (soundwise) too, which is why I sold mine. Even though you can get some "okay" clean sounds with the various switching options, it's best used as a Total Rock Machine!

    The tuners were rather cheap as well, but still functional.

    Anyway, if you are looking for something like this I can attest to it as being of fairly decent quality for a lower end model at the time. I can't say I really "miss" it, but I'm also glad I had experienced one at the same time... so there's that...

    Good Luck!


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    The Ballzz Senior Stratmaster

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    You could cheaply and easily slap an adjustable intonation bridge onto a Les Paul Junior, and have that classic P-90 GOODNESS! A Fender branded Humbucker or ANY humbucker, for that matter, will NEVER sound like a P-90! Although, I guess you could pop a humbucker sized/shaped P-90 type (like a P-94) into that Strat!
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    That's not a "Strat".
    The Leads, I, II and III are their own thing.
    I don't believe they ever came with a tremolo/vibrato.

    I installed a Kahler on at least two of them ...
     
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    gjohnson441496 Strat-O-Master

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    Total rock machine is what I'm after. :)
     
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    gjohnson441496 Strat-O-Master

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    I like the idea of an adjustable intonation bridge on the LP Jr. I wonder why Gibson didn't install them on it?
     
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    As far as what it's worth, all I can say is this: If it were a 1979-81 Fender Strat it would definitely be worth it for $600+- but since it's a somewhat obscure model then it will never be looked at with the same value, despite having many of the same features (namely the ash body, maple neck, and various hardware appointments).

    But, alas, it's not a Strat, so adjust what it's worth to you accordingly...


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    Well Sir,
    A P-90 equipped Les Paul Junior/Special is about as close to what you are after as you'll ever get! If not familiar, give a listen to Pat Travers, Leslie West, etc! A BadAss style bridge is readily available from many manufacturers, in various qualities, materials, brands, features and prices!
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0098WW9GY/?tag=strattalk05-20
    badass style wraparound bridge
    Best Of Rockin' To Ya!
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    gjohnson441496 Strat-O-Master

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    That's cool. I'm not looking for any resale value or futurestock in from it. Although it is in my price range, based on the responses here I'll definitely try to get it for around $500 - $550 after tax.
     
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    Excellent! Thanks for the link. For a few dollars more I can get a brand new LP jr. Based on the advice, I think I'll save up for the Les Paul Jr. Strangely I like the yellow ones.

    I'm convinced! Thanks all.
     
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    might want to look at a LP special and get 2 p-90s
     
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    I had the sister model - the Lead II (with 2 single coils instead of the humbucker) for decades. I got mine new in November 1979, and finally let it go in 2015.

    I agree that $650 is too much for a Lead in the current market - but as long as it's functional and a good player it would probably be worth trying to get the price down.

    My local Guitar Center also seems to be a repository of oddballs from my high school/early college days - they've got a 1980 Ovation UK II hanging up on the wall, also at a price that's about $200 too high so it will likely be hanging there for quite a while.
     
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    I saw one online! Haven't seen one in GC, though. I'd have to play one before biting the bullet. I was dead set on the Gary Clark Jr. with 3 P90's until I compared it to the LP Jr. What's your opinion on the LP special?
     
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    Yep. It is not a Strat. It is a Lead. Unfortunately I haven't got one in my hands in recent years. Specs indicate pretty narrow nuts which isn't ideal for me, with slightly strange joints on my ring fingers.
     
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    Yep. I updated the post title to Fender Lead 1. Totally different animal than the Strat. I did like the fat neck on it. That may be a result of playing 70's P bass all my life.
     
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    well it's basically the same as a JR but has 2 pickups. i personally like options tonally so having 2 pups is better. i'm a fan of the early double cut version mysef though the LP style is fine and so is the SG style. if you liked the JR then no reason you wouldn't like the special
     
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    I’m a big Special fan. I use an old raggedy DC Special with a set of Lollar P90’s, and it could honestly be my only guitar. (If I had to) A single pickup Jr is really cool and you can do a lot with one, but a neck P90 is something, well, Special!

    Something else to throw at you, I also have a newer 2016 60’s Tribute, P90 equipped. They’re killer guitars for the money. Can’t replace the Special though!
     
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