First Strat - a few questions

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  1. minecroft

    minecroft Strat-Talk Member

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    Just bought a 84-87 MIJ Stratocaster and I was about to swap the junk electronics out with a pre-wired Custom 69 setup but it won't fit.

    Cables in the way, seems to be tight between the top and bottom pickups.

    The guitar says ST-314 on the bottom of the neck, with only VWE stamped in the pocket next to the micro-tilt.

    I am absolutely struggling to find anything on this model other than it's possibly a medium/small scale for beginners or folk with short hands, although on initial inspection, looks and feels just normal.

    I'd happily just swap the pups out to the new pickup guard bit its in a different colour to what I'm after (parchment pots on black scratchplate).

    Is there anywhere I can buy the correct colour of pickguard and just swap that out instead:? Or does anyone have any knowledge on taht series?
     

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  2. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Dr. Stratster

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    Welcome to the forum! Can you help us to help you, what is the serial number prefix letter? I can't make it out in your photo......

    The ST-314 is a shorter scale and smaller bodied Strat, you can't put a full size loaded pickguard on - you have to keep the existing pickguard and swap over electronics. The body control cavity also might not be deep enough for full size pots.....

    This is a Boxer Series 'medium scale' 24.75" strat.....it's not for beginners or anything, a lot of guys prefer this scale length, even pros with big hands....

    If you want to change pickguards on this, you have to get one custom made....which is pricy....
     
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    SonOfLerome Strat-O-Master

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    It’s an “E”
     
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    FrieAsABird Strat-O-Master

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    Welcome to the club! As Guitarmaggedon pointed out, a standard pickguard won't fit, but if you have all the electronics prewired, it shouldn't be too hard to swap them into the existing guard. A word of warning though: Measure them first! If they don't fit for whatever reason, you are left with two guards and neither of them working.
     
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    If you're desperate for a different pickguard colour, there are folks who will custom cut you a new one based on the original or a template. More expensive than stock ones, obviously, but it's an option.
     
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  6. minecroft

    minecroft Strat-Talk Member

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    Thanks for the reply. The serial is E780028
     
  7. minecroft

    minecroft Strat-Talk Member

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    This just seems like the start of hassle I can be doing without. If the body is shorter, can I change the bridge or neck etc? Perhaps I should just wing it back and hope the seller agrees to take it (It was sold as a 1984 Japanese Standard Strat, no mention of model or medium scale).
     
  8. minecroft

    minecroft Strat-Talk Member

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    It doesn't appear to be a Boxer - they have HSS from what I can see online.
     
  9. Stevn

    Stevn Senior Stratmaster

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    That is correct. I had one made for a LP Special 2
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    minecroft Strat-Talk Member

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    Very nice!
     
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    My opinion, don't get rid of it... it's a unique guitar (as all are), you are embarking on the incredible feeling of customizing that guitar and making it unique to you. Yes, it may cost you more money than you expected, it may take some time to get all the parts and pieces that you need, but when you get it the way you want it you're going to be able to add to the story of the guitar, along with a few tools to your box. You're in the best place on the planet to find the resources needed to get that guitar the way you want it, we're all here to point you in the right direction. On the other side of that coin, you are in the best place on the planet to help that guitar find a new owner... if you choose not to keep it... I'll look forward to seeing it for sale in the classifieds forum! Good luck!
     
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  12. Guitarmageddon

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    Boxer series were medium scale, every medium scale is part of the Boxer series - no you can't change the body or neck, if you don't like this scale, try to return it - a normal Strat body or a normal Strat neck would not intonate.

    It's for sure not a Standard, you can send it back for 'not as described' if you're not happy....but the quality of these is very high.....
     
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    I keeps my greasy hands off the body paint!
     
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    Any idea if a stock USA bridge & tremolo would fit her? I reckon I can still change the pots and pups and give her a good setup. One of the problems is she’s still great, but needs better electrics and tuners, possible a better trem. Thanks
     
  15. Guitarmageddon

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    No, a stock USA tremol bridge will never fit ANY Fender Japan Strat - they're 2 point 56mm spaced, for 2 studs.....

    Why do you even need to change the bridge? It should be a full size big block.
     
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    minecroft Strat-Talk Member

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    I have the same sentiment. I’ve only started buying parts or guitars to mod and knew this was a risk (I live on an island so it could cost almost half the price I paid just to ship back, VAT etc).

    While I think about what to do, I’ll probably try get hold of a USA body as I gambled a bit on this one.
    Thanks for the kind words!
     
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    It’s just a bit rusty looking really so was thinking new saddles at the very least, but why not just replace all the chrome whilst I’m at it.
    Surely tuners will fit?
     
  18. SpeedKing

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    I don't think tuners will prove an issue and rusty hardware can simply be taken off, cleaned and returned.
     
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    Fair play. I better get googling on how to clean up the chrome a bit - I don’t want the string trees or saddles snapping my strings.

    This is the guitar I bought
     
  20. Guitarmageddon

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    No, American tuners will not fit either.....the ones on this model are very high quality to begin with....the american and mexican 'block' tuners fit 2 pin locator holes, which is not easy to do....

    CLEAN the parts, re-use them, set it up....change nothing.....