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Discussion in 'Pre-CBS Strats (before 1966)' started by sikoniko, Oct 14, 2017.
So..no guesses? I guess there isn't a noticeable difference then.
No guess from me, sir. I know the secret of good tone rests somewhere else.
You clearly know your slippers. Like an idiot, I went over to a pair of HumBunnies. I have to say, they don't have the same bite.
To my ears the 2nd Strat (gold) had the "coolest" tone.
What he said............
oh **** here we go again.
It's Inca Silver. While it's the most expensive guitar I own, it's also my least favorite.
I feel obliged to be helpful & offer to look after it for you, if that would help?
That's very informative. Thanks for posting.
never wear crocs while you play.... Not only does your tone leak out the holes but so does your dignity....
The dielectric constant of enamel and formvar is also different which means even with same thickness the capacity of the coil will be different. But I agree that the difference in thickness of the coil due to the 'heavy' (= thicker) fomvar is more important here.
I just read this thread and have become totally despondent, knowing that I will never understand, let alone achieve the sheer level of navel gazery aspired to by some posters here.
It's freaking wire. By the time the signal has gone through a guitar cable to an amp, let alone the bunny slipper stomp box you're lucky if you can even hear what kind of guitar it is.
Calm down dear.....
There is a difference it can be measured. Some people don't hear it some do.
To say its just wire is most certainly wrong.
Ive had both and used to think I could hear the difference.
Its just as likely I was just hearing a different set of pickups.
FWIW my favorite strat pickups are lace sensor golds. I have no idea what wire they use but, they use a ceramic magnet I believe.
Point being, a strat is gonna sound like a strat for the most part.
I think there's a lot of truth in that. I've heard John 5 playing country music on a Tele loaded with humbuckers and it still sounded like a Tele to me. Same with a Strat. Changing the pickups changes the tone somewhat, but it still sounds – and responds – like a Strat. I have two Strats, one with CS pickups and the other with Lace Sensors. They sound quite different, but they are still within that 'Strat range of tonalities'.
That said, if players can hear a difference between one set of seemingly similar pickups and another, they are the judge and jury to me. We make music because it sounds good, so choosing the gear we play it on without the same aesthetic would be somewhat strange.
The insulation is thinner than on heavy formvar, so for the same number of windings, you'll have a smaller (narrower) coil and therefore a brighter pickup. I hear it in some demos if you go back and forth, but the pickups in my 65 sound surprisingly warm so I don't think I could tell from playing a guitar what's in it. Still, it's one of the variables winders use to come up with different designs.
I've largely given up on digital multi-effects units for for exactly that reason. However, I am concerned about what will happen if I get new slippers for Christmas.