Fret harmonic choking out

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  1. Stratles

    Stratles Strat-Talk Member

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    New Strat day, I kind of set it up my way (action was too low), I put the tremolo arm on and start playing Lenny (standard procedure when I get a new Strat), "well, it definitely plays fine", then I notice some ugly choking/buzz when I play a 12th fret harmonic on B and E strings. Also on the 11th and 13th (not as noticeable). No problem with other frets though. Can you guys help me?

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    first thing that comes to mind is the neck relief... have you checked that?
     
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    Not yet, I was planning to do that next week with more time since I got to remove the neck in order to do it.

    I've always been a Gibson guy so my references regarding truss rod adjustment might not be very useful here, can you provide me with a good guide for stratocasters?
     
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    thse are a good place to start... his other videos are excellent as well...
     
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    Really appreciate it.
    One question, is it always necessary/recommended to remove the neck for a truss rod adjustment? Is there any tool I can use to make it quicker?
     
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    If it's a heal adjust for the truss... you have no choice but to take it off... if it's a head stock adjust.. no, you keep the neck on to do the adjustment...
     
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    Use a paint can opener, then you only have to remove the pick guard. While you have the pick guard off you can always file a small, half round out of it in the area of the adjust screw then you won't have to remove it in the future to make an adjustment. Although I don't see how the neck relief would affect a harmonic, unless your action is extremely low.
     
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    It's not too low. What do you think it is causing it?
     
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    Hard to say. Check to see that both screws in the saddles are pressing on the bridge plate evenly, sometimes a loose saddle can dampen thing enough to kill those harmonics. But that really doesn't explain why it's only happening where it is.
     
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    Actually I just realised this also happens in all higher frets. Nowing it’s there is really annoying.
     
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    Have you tried a new set of strings?
     
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    IF you want very low action and have not had the frets leveled.. it's kinda like wanting to set the land speed record at Bonneville, with a few hundred pounds of bricks in your trunk... under inflated tires and your Granny as the driver.... towing an Airstream with water in the gas line, a slipping clutch, tires unbalanced... get muh drift there?? :p

    do this first.... give yourself a fighting chance...

    http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-technical/201556-fret-leveling-yer-tele-101-a.html

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