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Fullerton Strat, is it or isn’t it?

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  1. ChrisSm

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    5837F832-E594-4156-A3E1-16A7BED0519F.png C7911B8A-EA6C-4E31-9371-C7E9549D2F61.png evening all, I’m looking at buying a black body rosewood neck Strat however the serial on the front of the neck is confusing me (I’m easily confused). Seller quotes it as 1003177 which to my limited knowledge just doesn’t fit in with it being a Fullerton plant built Strat as claimed. I suggested the first 1 might be an i which would make it Japanese I think but the seller is sure it’s a 1. Any thoughts?
     
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    Hard to tell from the photos, but the tuners don't look correct. Pickguard doesn't seem correct either.
     
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    Wrong bridge spacing, wrong bridge saddles.....not looking good...got more photos? does it have a serial number on the neck plate? Looks like a thinner Squier type body....

    Need better shots of headstock logo and the back of headstock showing type of tuners.....could be a Fender Japan ST-362 Standard....
     
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    There also seems to be a huge gap between the pickguard and the neck
     
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    Which makes me think Fender Japan neck with Squier body
     
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    Thanks for replies so far. No pics of back but attached pic of headstock. Obv made an attempt at blurring the serial number but I asked seller to confirm. The price is on the low side for U.K. rates considering its condition and all edged pedigree. Seller did say scratchplate was replaced.
     

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    serial number is for sure 'I' as in Ivan, not a 1. Seller is wrong. Neck is Fender Japan, body is of unknown origin, does not fit neck properly so probably not factory body+neck. I'd need to see the pickup routes and under the pickguard for pickups and electronics to be sure....

    At any rate, this guitar in its current state is worth about 200 quid tops.....I think that's going to shock you....

    How much is seller asking?

    Nothing about this guitar is Fullerton whatsoever....it's not any kind of vintage reissue either....

    The neck heel near the body join might have a stamp in it that says MADE IN USA - some of these were joint USA/Japan ventures....but neck was made in Japan....just USA assembled when it had the original body....
     
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    Thanks mate, the fact that he didn’t put many pics up and that none are good close ups did ring alarm bells I must admit. Plus £540 if genuine isa good price (for rip off Britain). Thanks to everyone once again, I’m going to give this a miss.
     
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    540 quid even if this was a genuine all original ST-362 Fender Japan Standard is NOT at all a good price!! I think the Fender Japan hype has gotten to some of the sellers you've dealt with? or shops?

    540 quid is more like the true 'reissue' high end ST-62 and ST-57 Strats with 50s Spaghetti logo and vintage features....and some of those even sell for less than 500!
     
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    It may be a light distortion/optical illusion, or I'm seeing things, but the nut seems to be a little twisted/not straight. I've seen a few guitars which had the nut slot cut slightly diagonal. This may affect intonation. Compare the nut to the first fret angle.
     
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    I do not know how fast you can run, but I would run that fast away unless you want a partscaster being sold as authentic.
    R
     
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    Thanks everyone, I bailed out when the guy started getting rude. He obviously realised he got found out.
     
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    Were any small head Strats made in that range from 1976 to 1981? I thought they all had large heads.
     
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    Just "The STRAT" - it had a small headstock and it came out in 1980. Technically the 1980-81 The STRAT models had the modified small headstock used on the Lead series. I think that the Gold Strat (gold paint and gold hardware) also had the small headstock when it came out in 1981 (again the Lead headstock).
     
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    Thank you John. I'm learning little by little. :)
     
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    £540 would be a good price if it was true that the guitar was "made at the Fullerton plant between 1976 & 1981". But it wasn't, as has already been established. Where was this mongrel on sale?
     
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    £540 is way too cheap for a Fullerton strat and he's getting shirty when asking Qs - leave well alone
     
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    Surely the point is not what "a Fullerton Strat" should cost, but rather the fact that this is not "a Fullerton Strat"?
     
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    You and I know that but the OP doesn't
     
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