Genuine fender or genuine fender partscasters

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Intune, Oct 12, 2021.

Factory fender or genuine fender partscasters

  1. Factory fender

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  2. Genuine factory parts into a hybrid

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  1. Intune

    Intune Senior Stratmaster

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    I started a poll here because there seems to be a debate on the matter.

    When buying a fender Strat do you guys prefer or require the guitar to be genuine fender factory built or can it be fender parts built to make up a fender Strat and still be sold as a genuine fender.

    I had to edit this to make more sense.

    So who thinks it’s ok for a random dude that swapped out a neck, body or built a genuine fender partscasters and selling it as a genuine fender Stratocaster is ok? It’s all fender parts right?
     
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  2. Willmunny

    Willmunny Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    I prefer to buy my guitars from people that bought them and never touched them for 60% of retail
     
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  3. Intune

    Intune Senior Stratmaster

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    No doubt, that’s my preference too
     
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  4. arct

    arct Strat-O-Master

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    I use Fenders, have my whole life. I'll take whatever Fender calls a Strat or a Tele, thank you.

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  5. cranky

    cranky Senior Stratmaster

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    I'm fine with partscasters. I have a couple of them.

    But if I'm buying a whole guitar, I wanna know exactly what it is. So I'm much more likely to buy whole guitars new but parts used.
     
  6. CattleDog73

    CattleDog73 Strat-Talker

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    It may be Fender parts, it may even be better than the original, but it’s not a genuine Fender. If it were advertised as such it would end up as a ‘is this fake’ thread here.

    So I would buy either, as long as the partscaster was priced accordingly and I could test it because who knows who put it together.
     
  7. albala

    albala Most Honored Senior Member

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    I prefer to assemble my own with OE parts from similar eras.
     
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  8. Intune

    Intune Senior Stratmaster

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    Sure 100%, I love my home built partscasters. Just would you if ever sold off tell the buyer it’s a genuine fender? That’s kinda why I started this poll. Some members here think if it’s genuine parts or none original to leaving the holy grail factory it’s A ok.
     
  9. ido1957

    ido1957 Senior Stratmaster

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    IMHO that would be a Fender partscaster and as I buyer I would appreciate it being describe that way.

    Let the buyer decide if they want to buy it with full disclosure.

    The end product may even be superior to a factory original. Again let the buyer decide if that is in their opinion worth buying.
     
  10. Antstrat

    Antstrat Dr. Stratster

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    I *might* consider a fender parts built to make up a fender Strat ONLY if it's from someone I know well. Otherwise 100% factory for me.

    "swapped out a neck, body or built a genuine fender partscasters and selling it as a genuine fender Stratocaster is ok?"

    No, not ok without full disclosure. No disclosure = douchenozzle dishonest jerkoff crook.
     
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    I feel pretty much the same as ido1957. Whatever combo of things it is, sell it as it is honestly.
     
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  12. Intune

    Intune Senior Stratmaster

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    Yes exactly full disclosure. Not denying, pointing fingers or judging anyone that has a sweet fender partscasters or hybrid. I have a few and can’t get over how good they are.

    Just if I decide to sell off one the ad will have full disclosure, why because it’s not really a genuine fender. Sure the parts are but it didn’t come new from GC, well maybe. Depending on location I guess.
     
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  13. Kestrel

    Kestrel Strat-Talker Silver Member

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    One of the greatest points when Leo started making Guitars was that you could swap parts to suit your needs or when they just worn out, of course in those days you could only get Fender parts to fit your Fenders, now you have a multitude of company's to buy from, I love my original Fenders but I equally love the ones I have built myself, if I were buying a Genuine Strat I would make sure it was 100% right, then I would alter it to suit me but would keep all the parts just in case I wanted to pass it on.
     
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    I would be okay with building a partscaster for myself, but buying one without someone saying that's what it is?... I mean would you like it if someone sold you a 'genuine Lamborghini' only to find out later that they had built it themselves out of Lamborghini parts and it wasn't factory made? That's a no from me dawg.

    I would prefer to just buy my strats from the source.
     
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    Whenever I sell a guitar I just mention everything about it and let the buyer decide how they want to categorize it. If I didn't change a thing I'd say it's stock and if I changed anything I'd just mention what I changed.
     
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    msbrech Strat-Talk Member

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    I'd say, putting aside any debate over the quality of a partscaster and whether it's a worthy instrument or not, if it's a guitar that I assembled myself using all Fender original parts, procured from Fender directly, and I was going to sell it, I would not call it a genuine Fender. I'd call it a partscaster made with all OEM Fender parts, and price it accordingly. And hopefully I had all the paperwork to back that up.

    Likewise if I bought a Fender strat let's say from a store and did some mods (say for example I got a Fender Player and dropped in Seymour Duncans in place of the original pickups), I'd make note of that as well.
     
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    AxemanVR I appreciate, therefore I am... Silver Member

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    I suppose if someone were to buy, say, three identical Fender Strats (same year, model, features and color) and for some unknown reason they swapped parts between them (and then forgot which parts were original to each of them) I would think that selling them as genuine Fenders is not too controversial.

    But, if swapping a rosewood fretboard neck on a Strat that started off as maple and calling it "original" would definitely be considered deceptive

    If something is original "to the best of their knowledge" (where even an expert can't tell), then I wouldn't see how it would matter. But if it's a flat out "partscaster" and a person tries to knowingly pass it off as something else? Well, that's just plain wrong.

    Perhaps there's some room for a "grey area" but if it's "night and day" then the answer is clear.

    Just trying to play the devil's advocate...



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  18. nickmsmith

    nickmsmith Dr. Stratster

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    As long as the price is right, and I can verify the parts are of the right origin.. IDGAF.

    nothing I have is going to be worth a ton anyway.
     
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    axejock Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    I build lots of Partscasters and always do it for the sake of "liking to do it" and for the opportunity to have colors, neck types, pickup/electronics and sound characteristics that you cannot get "off the shelf". If I sell them, I always give complete descriptions that explain exactly what is in the guitar, usually referring to them "Strat-Type Partscaster". But if could get called a "douchennozzle dishonest jerkoff crook" by not being so honest, it might actually give me inspiration to live up to the title!! :sneaky::sneaky:
     
  20. Intune

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    Yes swapping parts around on 3 identical guitars for some odd reason and putting them together, sending a few back as original. Not real cool but really it may not be a issue. Technically speaking but I’m sure the store owner would want to know.

    Yes a 60’s neck on a 50’s body for example that’s not original to fender and shouldn’t be sold as original.
     
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