Harden a trem

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  1. Steelskin

    Steelskin Strat-Talker

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    Hello all.
    Question about trems

    I like hardtails, my choir boy strat is the one i experiment on. To mimick a hardtail wth that one, i tightened the claw, added springs, and tightened down the trem to the body. The trem sits on the body nice and flat and its extreamly difficult to move.

    Now I got another strat that i dont want to experiment on, but i want the trem tight.

    What do you think of the practice stated above?
    Ive also heard of putting a block to hold it into place.

    I dont want to put a conversion kit on it, nor do i want to start drilling on it.

    Any comments? suggestions?
     
  2. Sprocket

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    I use a paint stick, cut it down to bout 2 inches.
    (Ive done bout 3 trems with this one)
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    Place it between the block and the body and then re-attach the springs.
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    Depending on which model youve got...it usually works perfectly and keep it just off the body.
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    On my MIJ I had to sand the stick down to bout half the thickness.
    On some models, like your Big Apple, the stick isnt necisarry, the block sits flush where the stick would fit.
     
  3. johnreardon

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    I don't use a trem and have never had to resort to placing wood in the block. I find 5 springs will usually do the trick, certainly with 10s
     
  4. Sprocket

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    It does keep it off the body nicely though.
     
  5. Steelskin

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    good sugesstion with the paint stick, I dont use the trem at all. I just like the idea of having i nice tight base. What do you guys think of what i did to the choirboy, like tightening it all done the way i did?
     
  6. Steelskin

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    PS my Big Apple is actual hardtail
     
  7. Sprocket

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    Doh!
    Its my buddy's Big Apple thats got a trem.

    Like I said, the higher end it is the less itll need the stick...but on MIM Standards, Id use the stick.
    I just dont like having that kinda pressure on the finish, myself, in case I ever wanna float it, I dont want any scars under the bridge.
    AND I still get major contact with the body via the stick.
     
  8. Dave67

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    It will work fine, you might need to a setup after you lock it down. I blocked mine the on the side of the trem, and use 2 spring. I have removed the block and went back to a floating trem, it an 80's thing. I can't hear any difference in tone.
     
  9. Steelskin

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    LOL no probs sprocket lol good to know though
     
  10. Steelskin

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    I didnt think there would be a diff in tone. I just like them solid. Makes me more comfortable i guess.
     
  11. gcconspiracy

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    I just slowly tighten the claw, retune and see if my biggest bend moves the block. Then if it does, I tighten the claw a bit more. I find that this method gets my trem flat against the body without putting tons of force on the finish (although I think it may still leave minor scarring depending on the body).
     
  12. Jimi Hendrix

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    That's what i've done with 2 of my strats. I don't know whether it scars the finish under the bridge plate or not, but that's not something i've ever been worried about.

    I've read about this, i believe Eric Clapton does (or used to do) this and his reasoning was to increase sustain, never tried it myself, though i may give it a go one day.
     
  13. asc67

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    I put a block in front and in back of the block.

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  14. Steelskin

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    I really like the double blocks, that must have be tedious
     
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    Same method I use...
     
  16. Steelskin

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    I think what im going to do is add the springs, and just tighten it a down a bit similar to the choir boy.

    Thanks for all the ideas, glad to know i wasent to far off!