Help - Can I get used to a heavy guitar

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  1. CB91710

    CB91710 No GAS shortage here Double Platinum Supporting Member

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    I'm curious where my Desert Star Explorer build is going to end up.

    Not that it would bother me... my '78 Strat was close to 12lbs, and my Les Paul is dead-on 10.
     
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    abnormaltoy Mouth draggin' knuckle breather Silver Member

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    What wood are you using for the Explorer?
     
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    nutball73 Senior Stratmaster

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    12lbs for a strat! Was it made of ebony? :eek:
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    I use a 4½" bass strap

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  5. summer69

    summer69 Strat-Talker

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    It may help more than you would think with some shoulder and neck excercises to. The strap plays a role, wider straps are more comfy, posture plays a role, playing with a relaxed body helps, moving/changing body position plays a role, swapping instruments - as biddlin proposes - has several good aspects as well.

    Everybody seems to associate a heavy guitar with a les Paul type, but you are talking Fender, I believe. Tele? My two heaviest instruments are a Telecaster and a shorty VM Jaguar bass. But I dont have a Les Paul.

    And welcome to the surface :)
     
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    s5tuart Perfecting time travel since 2525

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    This!!! :thumb:
     
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  7. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    For a 70s Strat or Les Paul, the old orthopaedic back support corset may be required...

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    Rudedawg Senior Stratmaster

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    Scott Baxendale Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    Your body won’t adapt, unless you start a serious body building exercise program, and it will cause neck and back issues forever if you keep playing it.

    “The best playing guitar” is often a matter of proper adjustment and has less to do with the guitar itself than you might think.

    You could, I suppose swap the body out with a lighter weight body, such as a basswood body?

    I’ve also seen people cut weight relief holes into the body, which I don’t recommend.

    The best and simplest solution is to find another guitar that is the right weight and style for you and then get it to play great, and move on from the ball and chain that is causing neck pain.
     
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    Handsome McClane Strat-O-Master Silver Member

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    Same thing happened to me about 8 years ago. Ended up selling my beloved Les Paul and most of my heavy amps. You can sell it and find another guitar that's lightweight, or spend that $70 on the harness thing in post #2.

    Oh, and show us a pic of this great guitar. We like pictures of guitars.
     
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    soulman969 Senior Stratmaster

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    If standing is a must find a strap that makes it comfortable. There must be dozens to choose from. I prefer the more elastic 3.5" neoprene ones from Levy's or Neotech.

    They're heavily padded and have some give to them to help absorb weight. I use them on all of my basses and my heavier guitars ranging from around 8 1/2lbs to 9 1/4lbs.
     
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    rockon1 Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    My neck thru Ibby RGT is on the heavy side. A wider leather strap helps distribute the hanging weight.
     
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    CB91710 No GAS shortage here Double Platinum Supporting Member

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    Honduran Hog body and neck, AAAA flame maple cap, ebony board.

    Basically an Explorer Custom, but with a double-bound body, and bound headstock, but instead of all black, it'll be the same tangerine color he used on a strat style body for an earlier build:

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    CB91710 No GAS shortage here Double Platinum Supporting Member

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    Late 70s CBS ash bodies were all over the place.
    I've heard of some as heavy as 14lbs!
    Modern ash seems to be far less dense.
     
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    abnormaltoy Mouth draggin' knuckle breather Silver Member

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    Are you going for a Jeff Carlisi thing?

    My only niggle with Explorers is their selector switch location...are you putting your where Gibson does?
     
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    Configuration will be the same as Gibson.
    I considered alternates for the switch, but on the upper bout it's too close to the neck, and by the bridge is just doesn't work with the control layout.

    The styling was an evolution.
    Started out as a twin for my Flying V... but then I considered, why would I spend $3k for a custom guitar that is identical to what I can buy from Gibson for $1500 and upgrade to match the V... the same way I did with the V.
    So some of the details evolved.... and honestly what I'm getting is going to be a lot nicer than the Gibson Explorer Custom, at more than $1000 less.
    Mine will have black plastics, and all gold hardware, including pickup covers and frets.

    The builder has 3 or 4 builds ahead of mine.

    So ultimately, I may end up building a twin for the V from a Gibson Explorer.... and will probably then order a matching V from DSG.

    But my next major guitar purchase will be an R4.
     
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    muttonbuster Strat-Talk Member

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    My exercise routine is playing my ESP Kamikaze 1 for a while which is 14 lbs of
    hard maple, then switching to one of my strats. You'd swear the bodies were
    made out of balsa wood.

    I feel ya though. I broke my clavicle out with the cycle mafia a ways back, I
    couldn't put any weight at all on my shoulder for months and was relegated
    to playing sitting down with all the weight on my thigh.
     
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    What my guitars weigh doesn't do you any good I don't think so I'll not bother weighing them unless it would help some...

    The wider the strap the easier. I use a 3½ inch. And, I would offer that what the fellow @Lonn suggested is not a bad idea at all.

    But really, just sit down to play. It's supposed to be fun and you certainly sound as though you are rather stoked about it...so yeah, sit down until you have to stand, then sit down again.

    Then...see a physician.

    That standing whlie supporting a 7-10 pound weight for 30 minutes has that dramatic affect might suggest something that a physician might solve better than a strap.

    Why do I know this you may ask?

    You didn't but I'll ignore that detail.

    At 45 I had the same problem despite decades of playing. Talked to a doctor who set up a cardiac stress test. Except...
    I suffered a "non-Q Wave coronary event" before the test was scheduled. And wound up having an angiogram instead which found that I had blockage but, because I was a runner, had developed secondary vessels around it.

    Went on serious blood thinners for a few months and the pain went away.
     
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  20. StratUp

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    Exercise is the solution. The good news is that it really helps with your playing skills at the same time.

    The other option is the "slinger strap".

    Are you sure it's this guitar? Maybe your body has changed and any guitar will do the same now. If that's the case, Naproxen an hour before playing (or another NSAID, assuming you can take them) might help your body to relax and not get stiff.
     
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