Help. Fender Japan Strat ST57 pickup identification

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  1. Wozzer

    Wozzer Strat-Talk Member

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    Hi I recent bought a ST-57 Japanese Strat off ebay.

    Its great to play, love it to bits and it appears stock.

    The serial number indicates it was made in 1989/90.

    The pickups sound good but wondering if they could sound better/more authentic.

    Does anyone know what pups came with the ST57 ( I've read some come with USA or Texas pups)?
     
  2. blasphemoustrat

    blasphemoustrat Most Honored Senior Member

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    I have had many mij strats and no two have had similar pickups. Without a picture of them it is hard to say. They have ranged from all American sets to super cheap ceramic bars.
     
  3. Wozzer

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    Thanks for the info.

    Is there anyway of telling when you remove the scratch plate?
     
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    Yeah, its easy to tell if they are ceramic or alnico, if its a bar accross the bottom they are probably ceramic, but if you can see the pole pieces they are probably American.

    My first st57 had solid bars on the bottom with mini pots, and staggered pole pieces.
    my second had two bars with full-size pots and non-staggered polepieces.
    I had one with full size American pots and the cheap ceramics.
    i had one with mini pots and American alnico pickups.
     
  5. Wozzer

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    Wow, quite a difference.

    I'll take the scratchplate off and see.

    Thanks,

    W.
     
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    So I removed the scratchplate.

    It has full sized pots which say A250K, an orange cap with 473KOK written on it.

    The pickups have no bars but you can see the pole pieces, although the odd one is covered in the black plastic of the bobbin. Can't see anything written on them. You can also see copper wire between the cover and the bottom of the bobbin.

    On the body and the neck its says "ORDER MADE" ST-57 - 601 KO137.

    I know from the serial number its an 1989/90.

    If any of you guys can give me any other info that would be great.

    Thanks in advance.
     

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    Well, looks like yet another version to me...the pickups look to me to be correct for American standard pickups of that time period, but the pots clearly say made in Japan on them. It's possible that they are high end made in Japan pickups or the American standards. They look just like the American standard pickups that came in one of my st-54s.

    I'd say you got one of the good ones. My guitar that has pickups that look like those (out of a 1991 st54) sounds perfect to me. They are exactly what I want out of a strat. But everyone has their own opinion on sound.
     
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    Also, the order made thing, it's kinda like the mij version of a fender special run. A larger shop could order a number guitars with they specs they wanted for their specific shop. My understanding is that while they aren't rare they generally were different from standard production in some way.
     
  9. Wozzer

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    Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    Here's some info on the pickups that came stock in my old 1986 MIJ Contemporary Strat, which I had bought brand new. They look like yours, so I think you're good.

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  11. Wozzer

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    Thanks guys.

    I'm just making a guess but Order Made could be because its gold with gold hardware?
     
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    blasphemoustrat Most Honored Senior Member

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    That's probably a solid guess. Can we see a picture of the whole guitar? I freaking love mij strats and everyone lovesguitar pictures:)
     
  13. Wozzer

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    Hey yes will post some pics tonight, I didn't take any of the full guitar. I also have a few other strats too.

    What wood do you think makes up the body?

    I'd love it to be alder/ash but I'm guessing basswood!

    Also I'm guessing PU also not nitro!
     

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    That's awesome! Love the color. Yeah most of them are basswood, I think only the extrad models were/are ash. You can test poly vs nitro by putting a small amount of nail polish remover on a cotton ball or q-tip and rubbing it in the control cavity, if the finish comes off is probably nitro, but if it doesn't change at all then its poly.
     
  15. Wozzer

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    Hey,

    For some reason it's not allowing me to upload pics even though I have before??!!!??
     
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    Hey,

    Managed to get them uploaded but had to radically reduce the resolution.

    Here we are.

    Difficult to truly capture the gold in the light but here we are.

    I'm sure its Aztec Gold which I have seen a real 57 on line in this configuration with gold hardware.

    Cheers.
     

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    That's a lovely collection.
     
  18. Wozzer

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    Thanks,

    I'm looking to sell the sunburst Am Std Anniversary.

    Its a great guitar, lovely grain on the sunburst, lovely neck but I want a 62RI to go with th 57 and the 69 and I can't have FIVE strats!!!
     
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    Those are Japanese unwaxed but very tightly wound alnicos with plastic bobbins and they are phenomenal pickups.I bought a set of these. from the 80s,
    from E bay for very little money to fit to an 89 Japan standard strat neck and body that i I bought at a car boot sale as a temporary measure until I could afford some more expensive pickups, but guess what,they sound every bit as good as Duncan SS1s that I have on one of my other strats.These Japanese pickups look look nothing like the traditional Fender fibreboard units, but sound very authentic indeed.
     
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    I worked on one of these 2013 Fender Dyna Japan 54 reissues yesterday and the guy gave me the pickups. They're bar magnet on the bottom so I figured they're ceramics, but Fender told me they're alnico.

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