Help Identify Pickups - 016730

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  1. pn8830

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    Hello,

    So I bought a bunch of Fender parts from a guy and among there was a set of pickups. They have 016730 number which as far as I understand is just a part number for the bobbin and does not really say much about the origin of the pickup. They all have black/white wires and I think I can figure out which pickup was in which position judging by the wire length.

    My plan was to swap my stock 90's Squier ceramic pickups for them if they are of any value or just to see how they sound. So any information like are they Fender or not Fender, ceramic, alnico or what not would help a lot.

    Thank you!
    PN.
     

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  2. archetype

    archetype Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    If the wire colors are identical for each pickup, yours are the first version of Fender American Standard pickups. Lots of folks really like them. They are not position specific, but feel free to position them by Ohm readings.

    Folks, correct me if I've gone astray. The forms are also used for Tex-Mex, but the hot leads are a different color per pickup.
     
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  3. ibdrkn1

    ibdrkn1 Senior Stratmaster

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    They could be from the first version of the HWY 1 Stratocaster (2002-ish). They look like mine.
     
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    These look like Fender Mexico Classic Series (vintage re-issue) pickups....

    @archetype what do you think?
     
  5. pn8830

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    Thanks, guys! So it sounds like putting them on a Squier is not a totally dumb idea. I guess I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.

    Cheers!
     
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    archetype Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    Could be: same coil form.
     
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    archetype Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    Could be, also: same coil form.
     
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    archetype Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    How about giving us Ohm reading on all 3 before you install. That may help us ID.
     
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    They look identical to my Classic Series pickups.
     
  10. pn8830

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    I'm glad you asked! I'm trying to locate my multimeter . Converting my heat to natural gas so the garage is a total mess. I'll post when I find it.
     
  11. Skinny Nitro

    Skinny Nitro Senior Stratmaster

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    I'm with guitarmageddon.
    Hwy 1 version one used Classic Series pickups.
    They are good, virtually the same as 57/62 without the vintage construction.
     
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  12. sjtalon

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    I agree.

    The H1 (prior to 2006) were the Classic Series 70 Version. Pics I have of them show a # sticker.

    They look similar (very) and are close in dcr so if we had readings that would help nail it.

    70' are AIII mags, 50-60's AV.
     
  13. kurher

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    They're all AlNiCo V.
     
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    I defer to the greater wisdom of several here. My guess after reading archeytypes answer would have been Standard series 2 based on the staggered pole pieces. Series 1 the poles were all flat and more or less level. Either set have a great vintage sound.

    So whose gonna school me on what to look for as far as winding color and "coil form"?:D
     
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    Would you like to share your source of info?
    According to Fender and my own experience (I have a 70s Ri with those pickups and a magnetometer) they're fully charged A5.
     
  17. Skinny Nitro

    Skinny Nitro Senior Stratmaster

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    Antigua's analysis is quite revealing.
    https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/mexican-fender-alnico-plastic-pickup-analysis.501931/

    Both sets in Antigua's post are presumably Classic Series 70s based on the Fender shorthand numbering 54594 or 594-01.
    He finds one set has some under strength poles but brings them back up with a rare earth magnet. Both sets are rated as AlNiCo5.

    The Classic Series 50s and 60s are AlNiCo5 and Fender short code 54172, sometimes just 172.

    The question is are they all the same construction with a number change only because they have different covers. The Hendrix Monterey Strat service manual specifically lists 54594 with white covers.
     
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  18. sjtalon

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    Well then looks like we are down to #0054172000 (Classic Series 50's-60's) being w/AGED white cover is all.
     
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    Hi everyone!
    Any experts online to help a brazilian friend about pick-ups?
    I want To sell my strat but need To find out about my pickup specs
    “American standard strat hss 60th anniversary custom shop pickups”
    Serial: us13094376
    Thanks in advance!
     
  20. Guitarmageddon

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    Welcome to the forum - this is very easy, you go to https://start.fender.com/ and type in the serial number...

    This is not a 60th Anniversary model at all, Fender shows it as a normal 2013 HSS Standard.....

    "AMERICAN STANDARD STRATOCASTER® HSS"

    Looks like ash body and cherry sunburst finish?

    got photos of it?