Help! Japanese or American 62?

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  1. Mr BC

    Mr BC Strat-O-Master Gold Supporting Member

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    Ooooh, a "relic" ;) Looks like a Titanic RI..lol
     
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    Well clean everything and try to restore it as original is the plan. There is a lot of work on the bench...

    The guitar feels right, and sounds really great.
     
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    And that's all that ever matters.
     
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    Absolutely. But I was curious :)
     
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    Given the current trend for making completely good guitars look like they've been abused, OP can probably sell the screwed components, replace it with new stuff, and turn a profit.

    Depends if the aim of this into a as-new-as-possible instrument, or restore it. Both are options.
     
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    A pic of under the pickguard would help too as well as the neck pocket (assuming it's not all painted over). I'll go out on a limb and say that people (in general) are less likely to "fiddle" with a U.S. guitar than an MIJ guitar. Very rarely does someone remove the country of origin decals if it's already an MIA & most are less likely to relic, refinish or burn them either. It's not that it never happens, it just happens less often. You know the neck was sanded and refinished or assume it was because there's nothing written on it at the heel?

    Remove a tuner as well to see what marking are on them.
     
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  7. Mr Dunlop

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    Looks like an American Reissue 62
    Congratulations
     
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    The neck had been sanded after the burn fail but not refinish. It is not even sanded everywhere, The part where the "made in Japan" should be is intact.

    I'll remove the Pickguard tomorrow and post pics.

    I removed the tuners, no other marks on the neck so I assume they are the originals. "Japan" is written on the tuners, which seems normal as I've read.
     
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    I've never owned an MIA Fender 62 but I've owned a few MIJ's and they do say Japan on the tuners. Of course for me it's a guess but I doubt the MIA 62s have Japan tuners. If it's a Japanese 62 then it's odd that the back of the neck is not refinished but doesn't have the Made in Japan with serial on the neck.

    The whole thing could be a Partscaster or as Guitarmaggeden said maybe not even Fender.

    What we'd be looking for in the neck pocket if not all painted over is of course any stamps but also try to guess what kind of wood the body is.

    Basswood is popular with the MIJ's & it's fairly soft (you can dent it with your thumbnail) with very little grains.
     
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    This may sound arrogant to a newcomer but it is 100% true. It never fails to amaze me how much some of these folks know
     
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    The position of the 12th fret markers points to a US 62 reissue, as they are too close together, whereas they were the correct distance apart on the Japanese ones. (Believe it or not!)
     
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    The serial brings back a AVRI 62 on the registration page but you will have to contact fender direct to get better specs like the color of the body

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    It does kind of seem to be an American 62 neck doesn't it? Right spacing, serial on the plate & nothing on the neck at the heel.
     
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    So far I'd say the neck, tuners and neck plate are original US reissue.

    Nothing so far says the rest isn't likewise.
     
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    Hi @Guitarmageddon - I think @MIJ1988 may be mostly correct.
    The AV series from 1982 until about 2012/13 had the string tree between the A & D tuners, while the more recent ones tend to have the tree directly under the A string tuner- to more accurately mimic the pre-CBS era.I can't say off the top of my head where the round string trees were positioned, so my observation only applies to the butterfly string tree.
    Of course, I am not saying there aren't exceptions, but that is the standard for the AV series.

    As for the MIJ, CIJ, I defer to your expertise. I have however noticed many of the 1980s MIJs had the string tree directly under the A string tuner, more accurate to the pre-CBS era, but again, I defer to you expertise for the MIJ/CIJs.
     
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    No, I really think It's a legit Fender, unless we face a guitar candy freak... As I said, one of my friend knew the owner. He has money and was not the kind of guy to have fake stuff.

    But I don't know if the USA here stands for the fact that the guitar was made in the US or because Fender is an American brand...

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    It's not Japanese. Replacement tuners do not a partscaster make. How the headstock and bridge came to be in the state they are in is another matter.

    And for your further information, not all basswood is soft, nor can it be dented with your thumb nail. Stop believing and repeating all the rubbish you read on the internet.
     
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    I tried to contact the French importer mentioned on the warranty card. Unfortunately it's too old to get infos as all was on paper at this time. So I don't know if the reference on the waranty card is a Fender reference or an importer reference.

    Anyway I definitely think it's a '62 AVRI, as a lot of you said.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Like we said at the top of the thread, without pictures all is speculation, which is what has happened. :D
     
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    I don't undestand... I post pictures on page 2. Did you get them ?