Help me decide

Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by cranky, Jul 23, 2021.

  1. cranky

    cranky Senior Stratmaster

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    I'm exploring crunchier tube amps, would like to add one to my rig. I have an opening in my signal chain, so I'm taking it as an opportunity to add a good old fashioned rock n roll amp. Something around 20 watts, give or take, with some chutzpah.

    I have it down more or less to a Vox AC or a Marshall Origin. They seem to have the best blend of clean and crunch. I'm open to recommendations, though. Like I know Mesa Boogies tend to fit this bill. I'm only just learning about different tube types, too, so if you wanna school me on that I'm listening.

    Also, head or combo are fine, but I'll probably end up with a combo.

    Thx.
     
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  2. heltershelton

    heltershelton Vivamus libero Vivamus duris

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    the origin is a great amp but not tons of crunch.
    if you want crunch out the wazoo go with a dsl20...the newest model.
    i had one and it has all you need. plus it has two channels so you could easily have one clean and one crunch....and it also has a half power switch.
     
  3. cranky

    cranky Senior Stratmaster

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    Thanks, that's a great tip. The DSLs have a 12" speaker rather than the Origin's 10", plus the DSLs aren't made overseas, either, I don't think.
     
  4. heltershelton

    heltershelton Vivamus libero Vivamus duris

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    i believe they are made in vietnam.... but im not 100% sure.
     
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  5. sam_in_cali

    sam_in_cali Scream for me Strat-Talk! Silver Member

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    How crunchy is "crunchy" (what are you playing? AC/DC? Pantera?...) and what is your budget?
     
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    ajb1965 Old Enough to Know Better Gold Supporting Member Silver Member

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    Origin 20C = no crunch it's more like a pushed clean with single coils. Great pedal platform though.

    Lots of options in the 20W arena though.
     
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  7. cranky

    cranky Senior Stratmaster

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    Closer to Pantera, I guess. AC/DC doesn't use much gain, do they? Idk, I don't listen to either of those bands much, I've never tried to play anything by Pantera and the only AC/DC song I've ever played is Thunderstruck for kicks.

    For me, off the cuff, crunch is like Soundgarden "Jesus Christ Pose" or something like that. Siamese Dream, Weezer's Blue Album, REM's Monster, stuff like that.

    I have pedals, and I have a couple amps that do clean and ambient stuff very well, but I'm looking for a tube amp that is designed to be at home in higher distortion scenarios.

    For this particular addition, I see used amps in the <$500 range, and I wouldn't want to go any cheaper than that, but it would have to be special or a great deal to get me to go closer to $1k.
     
  8. Groovey

    Groovey Dr. Stratster

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    Totally agree with @heltershelton . DSL20 for the crunch, or overdrive....
     
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    omahaaudio Senior Stratmaster

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    You're looking fo a Vox Oreo.
     
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    sam_in_cali Scream for me Strat-Talk! Silver Member

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    FWIW, Check out my clips on the 15watt EVH LBX (playing thru a combo amp speaker and then thru a matching 212 cab)...you can go from crunch to waaay more distortion than you would ever need:
    https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/nad-evh-5150iii-lbx.426741/
    https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/ncd-evh-212.427332/page-2
     
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  11. heltershelton

    heltershelton Vivamus libero Vivamus duris

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    @cranky ... looky what i found....
    my dsl20
     
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  12. cranky

    cranky Senior Stratmaster

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    Lol I actually looked that up. I don't know $h!t about amps or cookies.
     
  13. Chipss36

    Chipss36 Strat-O-Master

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    Marshall 18 watt clone…

    run it with a deluxe reverb at the same time,

    magic stuff happens.
     
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    cranky Senior Stratmaster

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    Aw dammit, now I gotta get a Deluxe Reverb too :)
     
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    valor19 Strat-O-Master

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    I came to suggest Orange but honestly a Marshall DSL20 would be a solid choice.
     
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    rocknrollrich Most Honored Senior Member

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    For 90s rock tones, the jcm900 was very prominent in that era.
    They are usually pretty cheap on rhe used market.

    As for the origin, from what I have heard on demos of the origin, it's more tuned like an old Marshall ( fat clean to crunch). Personally that's a sound I love, but some don't.
     
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    dirocyn Most Honored Senior Member

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    Check out the Supro Delta King. Great sounding crunchy amp.
     
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    3bolt79 Dr. Stratster

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    Marshall DSL 40 CR combo. Runs at 40 watts or 20 watts.
     
  19. cranky

    cranky Senior Stratmaster

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    Yeah I dig Orange. But somehow it's been easier to find Marshalls that fit the description and budget . . . or at least more bang for the buck.
     
  20. cranky

    cranky Senior Stratmaster

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    I have a 5w Supro Blues King. Do they sound that different.

    You know what, don't answer that, I'll take my lazy arse to YT and GC.com and do the research.

    Thx.