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Help me to identify the truth about this strat ???

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Mr_K, Oct 11, 2020.

  1. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    Still wanna know about whether the original case comes with it
     
  2. Bazz Jass

    Bazz Jass Chairman of the Fingerboard Silver Member

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    I'd be worried about this one personally. Then I wouldn't worry about it any more. Lots more out there.
     
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  3. Mr_K

    Mr_K Strat-Talk Member

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    Hey, no case and no coa with the guitar. juste the guitar
     
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    Mr_K Strat-Talk Member

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    I will play it unplug and i will see quickly if it rings ... for 1000, i'll buy it just for the wood
     
  5. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Censored

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    Thats some expensive wood.

    Best of luck!
     
  6. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    My opinion is partscaster.

    Enjoy the guitar!!
     
  7. Mr_K

    Mr_K Strat-Talk Member

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    Today, I have already appreciated this one, very good guitars these svl. But I also need a strat
     

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  8. Mr_K

    Mr_K Strat-Talk Member

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    An answer from.the custom shop :

    Thanks for reaching out. I am unfortunately unable to locate this one in our records at all, but that's not too uncommon for these "x of x" type serial numbers. The pictures do appear to be from a legitimate Fender Custom Shop build, and I did however to find 1965 build specs that should be accurate for that time.

    Model Name: ‘65 Stratocaster® NOS

    Model Number: 015-2700-(Color#)
    Series: Time MachineTM Series
    Body: Select Alder
    Neck: Maple, ‘65 “C” Shape,
    (Nitrocellulose Lacquer Finish)
    Fingerboard: Round Laminated Rosewood, 7.25” Radius (184mm)
    No. of Frets: 21 Vintage Style Frets
    Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)
    Width @ Nut: 1.650” (42 mm)
    Hardware: Nickel/Chrome
    Machine Heads: Fender®/Gotoh® Vintage Style Tuning Machines
    Bridge: American Vintage Synchronized Tremolo
    Pickguard: 3-Ply White
    Pickups: 3 Custom ‘65 Single-Coil Strat® Pickups
    Pickup Switching: 3-Position Blade:
    Position 1. Bridge Pickup
    Position 2. Middle Pickup
    Position 3. Neck Pickup
    Controls: Master Volume,
    Tone 1. (Neck Pickup),
    Tone 2. (Middle Pickup)
    Colors: “Thinskin” Finish:
    (800) 3-Color Sunburst,
    (802) Lake Placid Blue,

    (805) Olympic White,
    (869) Charcoal Frost,
    (Nitrocellulose Lacquer Finish)
    Strings: Fender Super 250R, Nickel Plated Steel,
    Gauges: (.010, .013, .017, .026, .036, .046),
    p/n 073-0250-006
    Other Features: “C” Shape Maple Neck,
    ‘65 Transition Logo,
    Narrow dot spacing,
    Built as if bought new in its respective year and brought forward in time.
    Source: U.S. Fender Custom Shop
    Accessories: Deluxe Black Hardshell Case (Orange Interior), Strap, Cable
    U.S. MSRP: $3,220.99
    COMMENTS: Uses Case P/N 0059245000,
    All Original Detailing, Built From Original Tooling, Built as if bought new in its respective year and brought forward in time.
    WRENCH SIZES: N/ANOTICE: Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice
     
  9. himijendrix

    himijendrix Senior Stratmaster

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    Truss rod bothers me, the adjusting point can’t be seen. Definitely not at the headstock, there is no hole or plug, and from the photos I can’t see any adjusting screw at the heel.

    I know that vintage strats adjusted at the heel, but in that case there is usually a plugged hole in the headstock.
     
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    Lankytwang Strat-Talker

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    Guys..this has been a fascinating thread to read so thanks to all responders...At times I've I've been reminded in the comments of one of our traditional pantomime jokes "Oh yes it is "....."Oh no it isn't " :) A good robust expression of knowledge and opinions...Maybe the OP will bond with the guitar when he sees it.. even if it is not as described it seems to have quality parts and the price may be worth it to him...can't wait to see the outcome.

    PS..Welcome to Strat talk Mr K.
     
  11. Mr_K

    Mr_K Strat-Talk Member

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    A big Thank you to all the experts, i'm not totaly convinced ... because there is very little infos/pics bout the X of X series.
     
  12. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Not on one with a rosewood fretboard.
     
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    There's no legit reason for him to withhold the serial #. I'd be done with it at that point. Looks like a partscaster with possibly actual FCS parts. Pretty sure pockets weren't "relic" stamped in 90's. Best advice is anytime something feels "off", especially when buying a fender custom shop guitar, its best to skip it.
     
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    non-original case is a red flag. It's rare a $3k+ custom shop guitar gets separated from its ohsc
     
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    Mr_K Strat-Talk Member

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    The case with this custom shop era strat is quite common brown/orange like AVRI
     
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    Partscaster almost certain. For $ 1000, it would be a good guitar though.
     
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    Mr_K Strat-Talk Member

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    End of story, I bought the guitar this morning. Dismantled neatly and I took the detailed photos. No doubt about the quality of the guitar, it's a custom shop body and neck ... and especially the sound! I had my brother's 65 AVRI Strat in my hands and we can clearly see a difference in finish which seems more robust on the custom shop. She need a good set up ...
    I will work on it tomorrow !

    Here are the pics :

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    Mr_K Strat-Talk Member

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    For me it's a real custom shop # 1 of 12, NOS 1965 reissue Olympic white Tortoise guard from late 1999 or early 2000.

    No doubts allowed since I put my hands on it! I will try to ask for a new COA !
     
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  20. Guy Named Sue

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    Congrats :thumb:
     
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