Hey Rogue, recommend me a good snake

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  1. Uncle Jimmy

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    Or anyone else please. So a band that I've been mixing vocals, flute, sax etc for, with the guitars and bass on their own has finally settled in and the volume wars are over. So I want to get myself more FOH and do them justice. That means getting further away.

    I'd like something 12x4, I'm thinking 50 feet. Do you think 100' would be better for the odd gig? Don't want to hamper myself.

    Solid construction, decent connectors. sturdy stage box.

    Thanks!
     
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    Red tailed boa
     
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    I think it's always better to have the option of/access to up to 100' just in case, period. Mackie is usually a good bet, but I definitely defer to RB, as he has forgotten more about all things FOH than I will ever know.
     
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    Strat Dude FUNNY googled red tail boa and got 5 pages of boa constrictors.

    Stark, you're right, 100' more better.

    Now, where's that rapscallion?
     
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    sorry bout that, couldn't resist. we have one by the way it is a good snake:D
     
  6. Rogue Bohemian

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    Uncle Jimmy, I've used most of them and never had one fail.

    Stark gave a good one. Live Wire, Pro Co, even Hosa.

    It's better to have more than you need than not enough. Go with 100' and you're covered.

    Simon is a real expert on all things sound reinforcement. I would get his take on it too. Like Stark says, he's forgotten more than I'll ever know.

    That said, the Mackie DL1608 will be my next purchase. No snake required and you can run the system with an Ipad from anywhere in the room. And up to ten Ipads can be utilized for from full feature control or can be assigned which features it can control. An excellent way to let each musician set their own monitor mix. You can get one new for just under $900. Compact and portable, it won't take up much space and is easy to set up and use.

    You can save settings for each venue and just recall them when you have a gig.

    Touch screen interface. Setting EQ is a snap. It will make your job much easier. The stage is less cluttered. No cables for audience members to trip over. Check it out on YT. There are loads of videos on them.

    Let's get Simon to chime in.;)
     
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    Yo.......now THATS what's up.
     
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    WOW, the thought of being able to move around a crowded room to tweak the mix is mind-boggling
     
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    It's the cat's meow!;)

    You can mount the Ipad to a mic stand and control sound right there too.

    My salesman bought the 32 channel model. He's selling me his 16 channel model for $500. I have half of it together right now. And it's practically brand new.

    Such a deal!:D
     
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    Seriously, that's really awesome.
     
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    It sure is! I'm stoked! After I get a sub, I'll start doing sound for hire.

    My plan is to sock away money until I have enough to get an ambulance for a band vehicle.
     
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    Hey, the fact that you care is beyond all of those dudes who just turn stuff up to the threshold of microphonic feedback and go, "okay, now back off the treble a bit....okay, a little bit more..." and then you're left with something that sounds like amplified oatmeal or cold cheeseburgers.

    You're gonna do just fine, buddy - good luck and rock on!!
     
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    What a great hobby and way to make $ having some fun! Awesome idea buddy, just be sure to get some youngin's with strong backs to take the pressure offa you.
     
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    "Rapscallion" - that's perfect!!! :mrgreen:
     
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    Can we make that half rapscallions and half pepperoni?
     
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    any kind of snake is good as long as it's not venomous lol
     
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    ~ Rapscallion Bohemian ~ FOH and pizza delivery
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    No Credit!​
     
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    I have a cat that wants to be equipment manager. He'll get his wish.:D

    I might even have it figured out by the time I get out there.:D

    Gee thanks. Now I'm hungry.

    This is excellent advice.

    And welding while you wait.;) And if they're lucky there will be BBQ.
     
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    Heck, I'm so old I need a roadie to go to the grocery store...

    Stark, thanks for the encouragement. I'm no stranger to mixing/recording. Started out recording sound effects for movies, did a bunch of chamber music recordings, mono, on a Nagra III back in the 70's. (A seriously awesome for its time reel to reel recorder.I still have one.) The lead guitarist in this band is a good friend of mine. Their old sound guy quit in a snit because he thought nobody was listening to him, or something. So I got asked to come help out. They did have the old crank it up for no good reason cause I'm a rock god thing going on. But something happened over Christmas while we were away and missed a gig.

    In the best of all possible worlds, all the amps would be princetons and i'd have a massive PA system and FULL CONTROL (Bwahahaha!) But that's not going to happen in the near future. I've got enough on my plate with 3 vocal mikes, a harp mike into a 5 watt something or other that sounds amazing, that I hung a mike on, a flute/saxophone mike, and an added bonus last night, an accordion. The two guitarists and bass are all using their own amps, deluxe reverb, a fuchs and dunno what last night's bass amp was. This was my third gig with them and we've got our turn it up/turn it down hand signals all worked out. I want now to get off the side stage with the mixer, rather than walk out into the house give a listen then run back for a tweak. Their play list is pretty eclectic and no two songs are alike-- there is no set it and forget it.

    Did I mention I'm having a blast?
     
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    Having to mix onstage and then go out to listen and make adjustments was how I had to run sound for my last band. What a pain!