I'm sure we can agree it's hard to pinpoint when the CBS takeover exactly started to make its negative mark. From a forum management perspective, I understand it's good to have a simple and unambiguous rule "pre 66 in this section, 1 January 1966 onwards in the general section". On the other hand, I suspect that a lot of the audience here also takes a strong interest in late sixties Strats. Personally, I don't even visit this forum outside this sub-forum so if someone posted a NGD for a 1967 Strat, I'd miss out on that. Couple of things made me reevaluate early CBS strat in the past year (besides always having had a soft spot for big headstock Strats): 2 builders whose knowledge about vintage is second to none, and who are also great players, have personal Strats well into the CBS years (one 1971 the other 1974). Hmmm. This gets me to point number 2, price. What it tells me is there are also some real gems there, and still obtainable for reasonable money. Probably have to tread with more care, but they're out there. This week I bought a Strat that may be a 1966, if the criterion is the neck stamp. I bought it online off a vintage acoustic specialist based on a tipoff that it's a superb guitar. The pickups are dated 8-31-65 but it being a big headstock strat, the neck is to my best knowledge December 1965 or later. Let's not get into the back story of why anyone would buy a vintage Strat without detailed photos (short answer, the guy who tipped me off was raving about it and he's played a lot of them, and that store just can't be bothered with electrics but I trust them completely -- store owner was selling it for a friend and the price was reasonable). I was wondering this week if I'd get shouted down by cranky old men if I posted pics about a 1966 Strat? Which makes me wonder, would it be desirable to shift the cutoff date here to include the early CBS years before too many undesirable changes had happened? Maybe draw the cutoff at 1970? Personally I'd be up for that as I suspect a lot of the same audience here takes an interest in these guitars, but could also appreciate it's a slippery slope. Or else another forum for CBS-era guitars?